I am the only one who wishes WotC would just announce the upcoming D&D settings for 2021?
MtG does this now, for the last couple of years, we know that MtG is getting a Kaldheim set, a Timespiral Remastered Set, a Strixhaven set, Forgotten Realms Set, a Modern Horizon 2 Set, a Vampire Innistrad set, and a Werewolf Innistrad Set next year. I really think the D&D department should do the equivilant, so fans can plan ahead.
I absolutely wish this, because otherwise I get my hopes up that it'll be a classic setting (Greyhawk, Mystara, Dragonlance, Dark Sun) and then boom, it turns out to be MTG or Critter fan service. Nothing against Wildemount, it's dope, but I would have preferred other settings.
I absolutely wish this, because otherwise I get my hopes up that it'll be a classic setting (Greyhawk, Mystara, Dragonlance, Dark Sun) and then boom, it turns out to be MTG or Critter fan service. Nothing against Wildemount, it's dope, but I would have preferred other settings.
I feel you. I’m an MTG player, so I was psyched for at least the Ravnica book, but I was a bit miffed with Wildemount. I like the Eastern Europe feel of the setting, but it’s too light for my taste, and I just don’t like watching other people play D&D, so I’m not familiar with it. Hopefully we get some classic settings soon!
I absolutely wish this, because otherwise I get my hopes up that it'll be a classic setting (Greyhawk, Mystara, Dragonlance, Dark Sun) and then boom, it turns out to be MTG or Critter fan service. Nothing against Wildemount, it's dope, but I would have preferred other settings.
I’ll buy them regardless, but whereas Wildemount is entirely new I probably have more setting info than I can carry by myself from previous editions when it comes to classic settings. I mean, I have the 5E Sword Coast book and ultimately its usefulness is pretty limited unless you’re new to the Forgotten Realms (and if you are the oblique references are still pretty annoying). And while on the one hand I’d give a kidney for a new Planescape book, I know it won’t feel the same without Tony DiTerlizzi’s artwork. Sooo... classic settings? Sure, but maybe something fresh isn’t so bad either.
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WotC was negotiating with Weis and Hickman to write a new Dragonlance series. WotC bought in a new editor after getting rid of the two women, one of which has an exceedingly long time being an editor D&D with a number of successful book launches. Reading the legal brief, it appears that WotC put in request for sensitivity reader type changes to their two manuscripts, which they complied. WotC after that, then told the two authors they would no longer read any submissions, meaning their books would not be published and they would not get paid. WotC is currently being sued. It looks like breach. They spent a large time making content for WotC and then in August, WotC decided, nope not going to do it and we aren't going to pay you.
Think back to the Satanic Panic and Loraine Williams again, it looks like WotC is going down that path for D&D. I've already started using 3rd party content (Frog God Games, Kobold Press and Goodman Games) for the last year. And to me, their content is superior than what WotC is able to put out now. The old 1E to 3.5E is superior to current day WotC for modules and world building. At least we are allowed to get RA Salvatore for his new series.
Having read the complain Hickman and Weiss filed in Fed District Court, I believe Portential was talking about the pair of editors (both women) who were working with Hickman and Weiss, swapping them for an editor who has had some controversy around his own writing and continued employ with WotC. It's a curious case, and I'm wondering whether WotC will simply assert a very callous theory of contract law or provide its own fact pattern agains the authors. But that's getting far afield from the topic..
Re: announcements, I too can wait a few months before learning "what's next." I mean, I mean WotC products, at least the adventures and non rules source books. I usually fill about two-three notebooks rewriting the material for my games, and settings books would largely be more inspiration wells to mine than something to play out of the box, so to speak. There's a lot to wrap my head around with the mentioned third party (I like some Kobold Press, I like the look and feel of stuff put out by Deck of Many ... and [shhh] there are 'other games') and community stuff out there, so it's not like I run out of things or structure my games around main publisher releases.
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Yeah, it would be nice if they did, but they seem to like to keep us on our toes.
Wildemount came out of nowhere when everyone was expecting Spelljammer.
I do hope it's Krynn or Athas though.
Edit: Welp, I guess it won't be Krynn.
Seriously. "Dark Sun" is the single most unique setting EVER developed. There's a real hunger for it, I think.
i heard very little of this setting care to share some info about it ?
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I wouldn't really want Dragonlance even if the legal conflict was settled. We already have two high fantasy type settings, and I would prefer something more unique like Planescape of Dark Sun first. But I wouldn't be surprised if another Forgotten Realms book would appear, to coincide with the M:tG book and provide a better guide than SCAG.
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That was my point, with the lawsuit it may not be Krynn.
And yes, WotC fired the two women editors who were working on the new trilogy with Weiss and Hickman and replaced them with a single male editor, then after getting one full manuscript and a treatment for the second, they pulled the the project.
As far as classic settings, Athas would be amazing, so would Greyhawk. I also wouldn't mind a new low magic world, or a revisit to Lankhmar.
That last editors book got hits for misogyny and possible pedophilia as well. So I guess he definitely can be a sensitivity reader for WotC for Dragon Lance? Maybe they'll hire Keith Oberman to help write a module where they go about and round up the maggots? Whatever WotC is doing, I think they have full on schizophrenia at the moment. They are broke mentally.
Yeah, it would be nice if they did, but they seem to like to keep us on our toes.
Wildemount came out of nowhere when everyone was expecting Spelljammer.
I do hope it's Krynn or Athas though.
Edit: Welp, I guess it won't be Krynn.
Seriously. "Dark Sun" is the single most unique setting EVER developed. There's a real hunger for it, I think.
Yeah, but it’s already kinda ruined because of how they’re treating Psionics this edition.
But t would kind of be ideal for Dark Sun. Nobody wants to really be a caster in Dark Sun so you have psionics which is being a "caster".
Except there are Spellcasters on Aathas, the Defilers and Preservers. And Psionics should never ever use Spellcasting rules since that defeats the entire point of why Psionics was safe for them to use.
Yeah, it would be nice if they did, but they seem to like to keep us on our toes.
Wildemount came out of nowhere when everyone was expecting Spelljammer.
I do hope it's Krynn or Athas though.
Edit: Welp, I guess it won't be Krynn.
Seriously. "Dark Sun" is the single most unique setting EVER developed. There's a real hunger for it, I think.
i heard very little of this setting care to share some info about it ?
Have you ever seen the movie, John Carter? Now imagine a non-Disney version with cannibalism and weapons made from bone or obsidian since metal was so rare. Now take what you imagined and dial it up to 11. Then realize that still isn’t cool enough to be Dark Sun.
Do you honestly think 2020 WotC would release Eberron with those two races with those behaviors? You'll have some Twitter posts about how its racist to depict cannibalisms in a race or how the Elves are making fun of East Africans - and its gone. WotC has become way too risk adverse at this point. There would have to be a lot of rewriting. I mean the tie in to global warming will play well with the risk committees that Wotc are using so that's a plus. But a fair bit of the uniqueness of the races will be changed by the committees watch if WotC does goes forward. Perhaps they'll change the magic to a form of magic industrial revolution with rising levels of magicules causing the land to die and warm? Perhaps the committees would like that idea and allow Eberron to see the light of day in 5E?
I'm hoping for Spelljammer. It seems to be the most bland out of all of the settings for races. Perhaps depicting the Githyanki as pirates will be upsetting or perhaps someone will decide that the Griff being depicted as heavy militaristic Hippos are fatphobic and makes the obese look like fascists in some olympic level logic twists. As long as WotC appears to be bending its ear to the social media satanic panic, I'm not holding out on the flavor that made the old settings interesting. And mind you, a lot of those settings were being released when Loraine held hegemony over TSR and was running it into the ground. She still let a lot of those settings go live. WotC just shot down DL, while the Blumes greenlit it. Even under Lorraine they allowed Spelljammer and Dark Sun to go forward (I'm sure she was envisioning Buck Rodgers landing there to make more money).
Greyhawk is also very very bland and is just a default fantasy world that a lot of campaigns mime inadvertently more times than not. I could see Greyhawk being signed off by committee.
Planescape has the Gods, and some dark good and evil. Potentially someone on Twitter could find something objectionable there to terrify the committees. I mean look at the succubus going neutral, I'm sure they could use slut shaming as a rallying cry against it's release as an example.
As long as whatever setting they put out is very bland, everyone is equal and the cultures play nice, it will get greenlit.
I've already given up on WotC being brave and bought everything for Spelljammer and I'm reworking the rules for 5E and doing the scans. I'm even thinking of doing a lot of freecad to do a few of the ships in rudimentary plastic sculpts. Being brave is risky and WotC is a committee and committees are cowards.
WotC is less of a committee than it is a subsidiary of a megalithic corporate overlord. Hasbro sets the policies, one size fits all style, and pushes those out to everyone beholden to them. Unfortunate, but that’s the way of corporate governance.
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I am the only one who wishes WotC would just announce the upcoming D&D settings for 2021?
MtG does this now, for the last couple of years, we know that MtG is getting a Kaldheim set, a Timespiral Remastered Set, a Strixhaven set, Forgotten Realms Set, a Modern Horizon 2 Set, a Vampire Innistrad set, and a Werewolf Innistrad Set next year. I really think the D&D department should do the equivilant, so fans can plan ahead.
Yeah, it would be nice if they did, but they seem to like to keep us on our toes.
Wildemount came out of nowhere when everyone was expecting Spelljammer.
I do hope it's
Krynnor Athas though.Edit: Welp, I guess it won't be Krynn.
I absolutely wish this, because otherwise I get my hopes up that it'll be a classic setting (Greyhawk, Mystara, Dragonlance, Dark Sun) and then boom, it turns out to be MTG or Critter fan service. Nothing against Wildemount, it's dope, but I would have preferred other settings.
I feel you. I’m an MTG player, so I was psyched for at least the Ravnica book, but I was a bit miffed with Wildemount. I like the Eastern Europe feel of the setting, but it’s too light for my taste, and I just don’t like watching other people play D&D, so I’m not familiar with it. Hopefully we get some classic settings soon!
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I’ll buy them regardless, but whereas Wildemount is entirely new I probably have more setting info than I can carry by myself from previous editions when it comes to classic settings. I mean, I have the 5E Sword Coast book and ultimately its usefulness is pretty limited unless you’re new to the Forgotten Realms (and if you are the oblique references are still pretty annoying). And while on the one hand I’d give a kidney for a new Planescape book, I know it won’t feel the same without Tony DiTerlizzi’s artwork. Sooo... classic settings? Sure, but maybe something fresh isn’t so bad either.
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Dragonlance wouldn't be my preference; but why are you thinking it won't be Krynn?
Jander Sunstar is the thinking person's Drizzt, fight me.
WotC was negotiating with Weis and Hickman to write a new Dragonlance series. WotC bought in a new editor after getting rid of the two women, one of which has an exceedingly long time being an editor D&D with a number of successful book launches. Reading the legal brief, it appears that WotC put in request for sensitivity reader type changes to their two manuscripts, which they complied. WotC after that, then told the two authors they would no longer read any submissions, meaning their books would not be published and they would not get paid. WotC is currently being sued. It looks like breach. They spent a large time making content for WotC and then in August, WotC decided, nope not going to do it and we aren't going to pay you.
Think back to the Satanic Panic and Loraine Williams again, it looks like WotC is going down that path for D&D. I've already started using 3rd party content (Frog God Games, Kobold Press and Goodman Games) for the last year. And to me, their content is superior than what WotC is able to put out now. The old 1E to 3.5E is superior to current day WotC for modules and world building. At least we are allowed to get RA Salvatore for his new series.
Tracy Hickman is really going to be surprised to discover that he's a girl...
I am the kind that waits until Christmas to open the presents. I'd rather let the anticipation build.
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Having read the complain Hickman and Weiss filed in Fed District Court, I believe Portential was talking about the pair of editors (both women) who were working with Hickman and Weiss, swapping them for an editor who has had some controversy around his own writing and continued employ with WotC. It's a curious case, and I'm wondering whether WotC will simply assert a very callous theory of contract law or provide its own fact pattern agains the authors. But that's getting far afield from the topic..
Re: announcements, I too can wait a few months before learning "what's next." I mean, I mean WotC products, at least the adventures and non rules source books. I usually fill about two-three notebooks rewriting the material for my games, and settings books would largely be more inspiration wells to mine than something to play out of the box, so to speak. There's a lot to wrap my head around with the mentioned third party (I like some Kobold Press, I like the look and feel of stuff put out by Deck of Many ... and [shhh] there are 'other games') and community stuff out there, so it's not like I run out of things or structure my games around main publisher releases.
Jander Sunstar is the thinking person's Drizzt, fight me.
i heard very little of this setting care to share some info about it ?
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I wouldn't really want Dragonlance even if the legal conflict was settled. We already have two high fantasy type settings, and I would prefer something more unique like Planescape of Dark Sun first. But I wouldn't be surprised if another Forgotten Realms book would appear, to coincide with the M:tG book and provide a better guide than SCAG.
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Yeah, but it’s already kinda ruined because of how they’re treating Psionics this edition.
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In other news, the original writers of Dragonlance are suing Wizards of the Coast for a breach of contract.
https://www.cbr.com/wizards-of-the-coast-dragonlance-lawsuit/
That was my point, with the lawsuit it may not be Krynn.
And yes, WotC fired the two women editors who were working on the new trilogy with Weiss and Hickman and replaced them with a single male editor, then after getting one full manuscript and a treatment for the second, they pulled the the project.
As far as classic settings, Athas would be amazing, so would Greyhawk. I also wouldn't mind a new low magic world, or a revisit to Lankhmar.
But t would kind of be ideal for Dark Sun. Nobody wants to really be a caster in Dark Sun so you have psionics which is being a "caster".
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That last editors book got hits for misogyny and possible pedophilia as well. So I guess he definitely can be a sensitivity reader for WotC for Dragon Lance? Maybe they'll hire Keith Oberman to help write a module where they go about and round up the maggots? Whatever WotC is doing, I think they have full on schizophrenia at the moment. They are broke mentally.
Except there are Spellcasters on Aathas, the Defilers and Preservers. And Psionics should never ever use Spellcasting rules since that defeats the entire point of why Psionics was safe for them to use.
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Have you ever seen the movie, John Carter? Now imagine a non-Disney version with cannibalism and weapons made from bone or obsidian since metal was so rare. Now take what you imagined and dial it up to 11. Then realize that still isn’t cool enough to be Dark Sun.
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Do you honestly think 2020 WotC would release Eberron with those two races with those behaviors? You'll have some Twitter posts about how its racist to depict cannibalisms in a race or how the Elves are making fun of East Africans - and its gone. WotC has become way too risk adverse at this point. There would have to be a lot of rewriting. I mean the tie in to global warming will play well with the risk committees that Wotc are using so that's a plus. But a fair bit of the uniqueness of the races will be changed by the committees watch if WotC does goes forward. Perhaps they'll change the magic to a form of magic industrial revolution with rising levels of magicules causing the land to die and warm? Perhaps the committees would like that idea and allow Eberron to see the light of day in 5E?
I'm hoping for Spelljammer. It seems to be the most bland out of all of the settings for races. Perhaps depicting the Githyanki as pirates will be upsetting or perhaps someone will decide that the Griff being depicted as heavy militaristic Hippos are fatphobic and makes the obese look like fascists in some olympic level logic twists. As long as WotC appears to be bending its ear to the social media satanic panic, I'm not holding out on the flavor that made the old settings interesting. And mind you, a lot of those settings were being released when Loraine held hegemony over TSR and was running it into the ground. She still let a lot of those settings go live. WotC just shot down DL, while the Blumes greenlit it. Even under Lorraine they allowed Spelljammer and Dark Sun to go forward (I'm sure she was envisioning Buck Rodgers landing there to make more money).
Greyhawk is also very very bland and is just a default fantasy world that a lot of campaigns mime inadvertently more times than not. I could see Greyhawk being signed off by committee.
Planescape has the Gods, and some dark good and evil. Potentially someone on Twitter could find something objectionable there to terrify the committees. I mean look at the succubus going neutral, I'm sure they could use slut shaming as a rallying cry against it's release as an example.
As long as whatever setting they put out is very bland, everyone is equal and the cultures play nice, it will get greenlit.
I've already given up on WotC being brave and bought everything for Spelljammer and I'm reworking the rules for 5E and doing the scans. I'm even thinking of doing a lot of freecad to do a few of the ships in rudimentary plastic sculpts. Being brave is risky and WotC is a committee and committees are cowards.
WotC is less of a committee than it is a subsidiary of a megalithic corporate overlord. Hasbro sets the policies, one size fits all style, and pushes those out to everyone beholden to them. Unfortunate, but that’s the way of corporate governance.
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