In my experience, what you may refer to as the community, really does not care one way or the other.
At least the people I associate with are exceptionally open minded about it. Here is a story for you
I started a new campaign last September at my local game shoppe that has open DND on Wednesdays. My group has someone who turned 13 that October. The group ranges from 13 to 42. The 13 year old was very shy and it was hard to get her to roll play. Constantly she would use her rogue to simply hide and evade. She was wrapped pretty tightly in a shell. Myself and one of the other adults worked really hard to get her involved in the game. I allowed her to re-roll her character with help (we used DND Beyond). I talked to her a lot. She really started opening up and being a key player. Typically she would walk to the shoppe after school and hang out there until the game started. Her mom would pick her up at the scheduled game end time. After about 10 weeks her mom actually came into the shopped. To talk to me. I told her what a great player her daughter is becoming, etc. She told her daughter she would her in the car. She said to me something along the lines of "I don't know what you have done to my daughter but she has gained a lot of confidence, she is talking more, and cannot wait to play with you every week.
Fast forward to 3 weeks before Covid shut us down. Game time is 5:30 I typically get there around 4:45 to get set up and do any one on one people may want to do. She starts talking to me and right out of the blue she told me she was a lesbian. I asked her if she had someone special? She smiled and said she did. I asked if she treated her nice? She does. Well someone else in the room overheard and he comes running over and said thats really cool I he was something I was not familiar with.
My position is that if anyone in my group has an issue with someone preferences I would ask them to leave. Now she is opening playing a Lesbian Drow Rogue. One of the other younger guys is a little uncomfortable but this is good for him.
I feel like D&D inclusion is related to this topic. Effort has been made by WoTC There is a paragraph that exists in all the books about inclusion, right near the beginning. As well in The Ice Spire Peak module in the Essentials kit, you will find the mountain village of Gnomenguard which is ruled by 2 Kings who are referred to as partners. While there is not any great length to totally define this relationship, its there, and seem rather obvious. There might be others, but came across that one recently so thought I'd share.
Hey sorry that i haven't been on here as much, and that i accidentally let the thread get out of hand. I would also like to mention there's differences between having lgbtq+ npcs/characters verses players, especially between lgbtq+ sexuality's and gender's. A personal experience I've had as a transmasculine person, was that someone rejected me from their campaign to avoid "misgendering issues". Which to any dms and or future dms, someones out of game pronouns should not be an issue, its okay to mess up a few times on accident with someones pronouns but not if your'e trying to be malicious about it.
Another note, please keep you discussions out of the nsfw realm and be kind to each other, this thread was NOT created for debates, it was created for people to share their experiences!
Hey sorry that i haven't been on here as much, and that i accidentally let the thread get out of hand. I would also like to mention there's differences between having lgbtq+ npcs/characters verses players, especially between lgbtq+ sexuality's and gender's. A personal experience I've had as a transmasculine person, was that someone rejected me from their campaign to avoid "misgendering issues". Which to any dms and or future dms, someones out of game pronouns should not be an issue, its okay to mess up a few times on accident with someones pronouns but not if your'e trying to be malicious about it.
I think, thankfully if anything can be gleaned from this thread that everyone in it agrees that the experience you had was abhorrent and awful and not representative of what the D&D community at large wants. That person who rejected you is a bigot, and I wouldn't want to be at their table or communicate with anyone at that table because they allowed the reprehensible behavior to happen.
The stories being shared about players who have used D&D as a social construct to accept who they are is absolutely heartwarming and lovely. That is what I want at my table. We can have disagreements, we can argue rules, we can make fun of the player who rolled Nat 1, but we also have to remember to cheer on that player when they roll that Nat 20. To bring up the positives behind everything, and to be there for each other.
I think if you go back to the roots of D&D, that's really what it boiled down to. Certain types of people were ostracized for being different, and this was their avenue of fun. It was demonized, criticized, and categorized in a bunch of negative ways but clearly, to those in this thread, there are positives.
We share a hobby, we share an interest, we share a community.
Can we not all just put the other silliness aside and just love each other as people sharing one thing? That's the important part. Even if we disagree on something, we all know we are bound together by this bond that this game brings us. I love you all, regardless of race and gender and identifiers, because D&D brought us all together.
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In my over 38 years of playing D&D (and countless other RPGs), almost no one cared what you were as long as you were there to game. I personally care not one iota what your preferences (or your characters) are since the only thing I care about is "Do you have my back when we're down in a dungeon running for our lives from that dragon we just pissed off?" I care about "Are you going to rob me in my sleep because you're playing a kleptomaniacal idiot".....and yes, I have experienced more than my fair share of such doofuses that think robbing from their fellow adventurers, all of whom can deal death in new and interesting ways, was a smart decision. Has there been romance in a few games I've played? Yes. Did it bother me, not really because its one of those "and then fade to black" once things go beyond the "I crawl into bed with them" stage cause I personally don't want to be squicked out by someone describing something (gay, straight or otherwise).
Hey folks, I'm going to create another thread this time for primarily lgbtq+ voices, since I've noticed that this thread has been taken over by mostly cis-het people.
I'm nonbinary and I've never had any overt discrimination. I have heard the "we don't really have sexuality in our game" line a lot, or variations of it. I never understood what that means. Are there no married people or people in relationships in your campaign? No kings and queens? What about parents? How are people born if there is no sexuality in your game? I wonder if the people who say that understand that LGBT+ people can exist outside the context of gratuitous sexual encounters, just like cisgender heterosexual people. For example, one of the characters I play has two moms, and that comes up a lot since they are both alive and we've visited my home several times.
I'm nonbinary and I've never had any overt discrimination. I have heard the "we don't really have sexuality in our game" line a lot, or variations of it. I never understood what that means. Are there no married people or people in relationships in your campaign? No kings and queens? What about parents? How are people born if there is no sexuality in your game? I wonder if the people who say that understand that LGBT+ people can exist outside the context of gratuitous sexual encounters, just like cisgender heterosexual people. For example, one of the characters I play has two moms, and that comes up a lot since they are both alive and we've visited my home several times.
I think what that line "we don't have sexuality in our games" means is that it shouldn't be and isn't important in a game of D&D. I don't care what your character prefers or identifies as, unless you enjoy games where your character gets into some explicit stuff or enjoys showing off their sexual orientation then that kind of stuff shouldn't come up in a normal session of smiting monsters and completing quests.
In a world beset by drow, dragons, demons, devils and creatures from beyond the realm of sanity life is too short to be against people for who they are if they can hold a sword or take care of others they are welcome.
I'm nonbinary and I've never had any overt discrimination. I have heard the "we don't really have sexuality in our game" line a lot, or variations of it. I never understood what that means. Are there no married people or people in relationships in your campaign? No kings and queens? What about parents? How are people born if there is no sexuality in your game? I wonder if the people who say that understand that LGBT+ people can exist outside the context of gratuitous sexual encounters, just like cisgender heterosexual people. For example, one of the characters I play has two moms, and that comes up a lot since they are both alive and we've visited my home several times.
I think what that line "we don't have sexuality in our games" means is that it shouldn't be and isn't important in a game of D&D. I don't care what your character prefers or identifies as, unless you enjoy games where your character gets into some explicit stuff or enjoys showing off their sexual orientation then that kind of stuff shouldn't come up in a normal session of smiting monsters and completing quests.
Are you having a go at me? You just quoted me and ignored everything I said and just reiterated the same thing. Character backstory and roleplay is hugely important in D&D. If you don't care about the other player characters and all you want to do is combat then why are you playing D&D? Why not just play a video game then?
The way I'm interpreting JoJoBeans07 is to mean that acts of sex are largely exempt from their games. People interpret the word, sexuality, differently in different contexts... and sometimes even in the same contexts.
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Human. Male. Possibly. Don't be a divider. My characters' backgrounds are written like instruction manuals rather than stories. My opinion and preferences don't mean you're wrong. I am 99.7603% convinced that the digital dice are messing with me. I roll high when nobody's looking and low when anyone else can see.🎲 “It's a bit early to be thinking about an epitaph. No?” will be my epitaph.
I assume when people say that they mean in the context of like, when it exists there's no focus on it. Like how in one of the D&D books quotes earlier there's two kings, however it's treated as a everyday thing and nobody brings it up as unusual. It doesn't become a plot point, it's not a overly special thing, it's just there.
I'm nonbinary and I've never had any overt discrimination. I have heard the "we don't really have sexuality in our game" line a lot, or variations of it. I never understood what that means. Are there no married people or people in relationships in your campaign? No kings and queens? What about parents? How are people born if there is no sexuality in your game? I wonder if the people who say that understand that LGBT+ people can exist outside the context of gratuitous sexual encounters, just like cisgender heterosexual people. For example, one of the characters I play has two moms, and that comes up a lot since they are both alive and we've visited my home several times.
I think what that line "we don't have sexuality in our games" means is that it shouldn't be and isn't important in a game of D&D. I don't care what your character prefers or identifies as, unless you enjoy games where your character gets into some explicit stuff or enjoys showing off their sexual orientation then that kind of stuff shouldn't come up in a normal session of smiting monsters and completing quests.
Are you having a go at me? You just quoted me and ignored everything I said and just reiterated the same thing. Character backstory and roleplay is hugely important in D&D. If you don't care about the other player characters and all you want to do is combat then why are you playing D&D? Why not just play a video game then?
In plenty of campaigns sexuality is not a significant part of backstories or roleplay. That doesn't mean it's all combat or nobody cares about other characters, it's just that not everybody cares to include it. When I'm DMing for a group of players I don't know very well yet, I'm certainly not going to include major sexual overtones. Considering the handful of campaigns I've run for kids, taking things beyond mild romance (regardless of preference) might be inappropriate as well.
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OK guys, it feels like you are talking over me. My point is that sexuality affects different aspects of the game, not just sex. If you are just going to quote reply by repeating that you don't include sex in the game, please don't bother.
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In my experience, what you may refer to as the community, really does not care one way or the other.
At least the people I associate with are exceptionally open minded about it. Here is a story for you
I started a new campaign last September at my local game shoppe that has open DND on Wednesdays. My group has someone who turned 13 that October. The group ranges from 13 to 42. The 13 year old was very shy and it was hard to get her to roll play. Constantly she would use her rogue to simply hide and evade. She was wrapped pretty tightly in a shell. Myself and one of the other adults worked really hard to get her involved in the game. I allowed her to re-roll her character with help (we used DND Beyond). I talked to her a lot. She really started opening up and being a key player. Typically she would walk to the shoppe after school and hang out there until the game started. Her mom would pick her up at the scheduled game end time. After about 10 weeks her mom actually came into the shopped. To talk to me. I told her what a great player her daughter is becoming, etc. She told her daughter she would her in the car. She said to me something along the lines of "I don't know what you have done to my daughter but she has gained a lot of confidence, she is talking more, and cannot wait to play with you every week.
Fast forward to 3 weeks before Covid shut us down. Game time is 5:30 I typically get there around 4:45 to get set up and do any one on one people may want to do. She starts talking to me and right out of the blue she told me she was a lesbian. I asked her if she had someone special? She smiled and said she did. I asked if she treated her nice? She does. Well someone else in the room overheard and he comes running over and said thats really cool I he was something I was not familiar with.
My position is that if anyone in my group has an issue with someone preferences I would ask them to leave. Now she is opening playing a Lesbian Drow Rogue. One of the other younger guys is a little uncomfortable but this is good for him.
Sorry I tend to run on.
No, this is heartwarming.
D&D led me to finding my wife, a bisexual female and my best friend, a demisexual female.
Dungeons & Dragons, and other role-playing games, leads to the good in life.
I feel like D&D inclusion is related to this topic. Effort has been made by WoTC There is a paragraph that exists in all the books about inclusion, right near the beginning. As well in The Ice Spire Peak module in the Essentials kit, you will find the mountain village of Gnomenguard which is ruled by 2 Kings who are referred to as partners. While there is not any great length to totally define this relationship, its there, and seem rather obvious. There might be others, but came across that one recently so thought I'd share.
Hey sorry that i haven't been on here as much, and that i accidentally let the thread get out of hand. I would also like to mention there's differences between having lgbtq+ npcs/characters verses players, especially between lgbtq+ sexuality's and gender's. A personal experience I've had as a transmasculine person, was that someone rejected me from their campaign to avoid "misgendering issues". Which to any dms and or future dms, someones out of game pronouns should not be an issue, its okay to mess up a few times on accident with someones pronouns but not if your'e trying to be malicious about it.
Another note, please keep you discussions out of the nsfw realm and be kind to each other, this thread was NOT created for debates, it was created for people to share their experiences!
I think, thankfully if anything can be gleaned from this thread that everyone in it agrees that the experience you had was abhorrent and awful and not representative of what the D&D community at large wants. That person who rejected you is a bigot, and I wouldn't want to be at their table or communicate with anyone at that table because they allowed the reprehensible behavior to happen.
The stories being shared about players who have used D&D as a social construct to accept who they are is absolutely heartwarming and lovely. That is what I want at my table. We can have disagreements, we can argue rules, we can make fun of the player who rolled Nat 1, but we also have to remember to cheer on that player when they roll that Nat 20. To bring up the positives behind everything, and to be there for each other.
I think if you go back to the roots of D&D, that's really what it boiled down to. Certain types of people were ostracized for being different, and this was their avenue of fun. It was demonized, criticized, and categorized in a bunch of negative ways but clearly, to those in this thread, there are positives.
Really, in the end, just love each other.
We share a hobby, we share an interest, we share a community.
Can we not all just put the other silliness aside and just love each other as people sharing one thing? That's the important part. Even if we disagree on something, we all know we are bound together by this bond that this game brings us. I love you all, regardless of race and gender and identifiers, because D&D brought us all together.
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In my over 38 years of playing D&D (and countless other RPGs), almost no one cared what you were as long as you were there to game. I personally care not one iota what your preferences (or your characters) are since the only thing I care about is "Do you have my back when we're down in a dungeon running for our lives from that dragon we just pissed off?" I care about "Are you going to rob me in my sleep because you're playing a kleptomaniacal idiot".....and yes, I have experienced more than my fair share of such doofuses that think robbing from their fellow adventurers, all of whom can deal death in new and interesting ways, was a smart decision. Has there been romance in a few games I've played? Yes. Did it bother me, not really because its one of those "and then fade to black" once things go beyond the "I crawl into bed with them" stage cause I personally don't want to be squicked out by someone describing something (gay, straight or otherwise).
Hey folks, I'm going to create another thread this time for primarily lgbtq+ voices, since I've noticed that this thread has been taken over by mostly cis-het people.
I'm nonbinary and I've never had any overt discrimination. I have heard the "we don't really have sexuality in our game" line a lot, or variations of it. I never understood what that means. Are there no married people or people in relationships in your campaign? No kings and queens? What about parents? How are people born if there is no sexuality in your game? I wonder if the people who say that understand that LGBT+ people can exist outside the context of gratuitous sexual encounters, just like cisgender heterosexual people. For example, one of the characters I play has two moms, and that comes up a lot since they are both alive and we've visited my home several times.
I think what that line "we don't have sexuality in our games" means is that it shouldn't be and isn't important in a game of D&D. I don't care what your character prefers or identifies as, unless you enjoy games where your character gets into some explicit stuff or enjoys showing off their sexual orientation then that kind of stuff shouldn't come up in a normal session of smiting monsters and completing quests.
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Are you having a go at me? You just quoted me and ignored everything I said and just reiterated the same thing. Character backstory and roleplay is hugely important in D&D. If you don't care about the other player characters and all you want to do is combat then why are you playing D&D? Why not just play a video game then?
The way I'm interpreting JoJoBeans07 is to mean that acts of sex are largely exempt from their games. People interpret the word, sexuality, differently in different contexts... and sometimes even in the same contexts.
Human. Male. Possibly. Don't be a divider.
My characters' backgrounds are written like instruction manuals rather than stories. My opinion and preferences don't mean you're wrong.
I am 99.7603% convinced that the digital dice are messing with me. I roll high when nobody's looking and low when anyone else can see.🎲
“It's a bit early to be thinking about an epitaph. No?” will be my epitaph.
I assume when people say that they mean in the context of like, when it exists there's no focus on it. Like how in one of the D&D books quotes earlier there's two kings, however it's treated as a everyday thing and nobody brings it up as unusual. It doesn't become a plot point, it's not a overly special thing, it's just there.
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In plenty of campaigns sexuality is not a significant part of backstories or roleplay. That doesn't mean it's all combat or nobody cares about other characters, it's just that not everybody cares to include it. When I'm DMing for a group of players I don't know very well yet, I'm certainly not going to include major sexual overtones. Considering the handful of campaigns I've run for kids, taking things beyond mild romance (regardless of preference) might be inappropriate as well.
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OK guys, it feels like you are talking over me. My point is that sexuality affects different aspects of the game, not just sex. If you are just going to quote reply by repeating that you don't include sex in the game, please don't bother.