As far as I am aware, all effects which occur when an attack hits happen after the damage has been dealt. Because the attack is considered to have hit you, it would have had to have made contact and therefor dealt damage. Even effects which reduce damage taken first have the creature deal the damage, then apply the effect (reduction) and finally apply the total
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I'll be perfectly honest, I was looking at whether it was possible to exploit the mechanics.
The only way it could, potentially, work another way is to say that the damage occurs to the attacker at the instant the attack hits. If that kills them, it could rob the blow of all power, thereby negative the damage. However, I never realistically expected that to wash...
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Hi all.
Entry number 5 on the Path of Wild Magic's Wild Surge table states:
Would this damage occur before or after you Barb took damage? If this killed the attacker, would the Barb take the damage from the hit?
As far as I am aware, all effects which occur when an attack hits happen after the damage has been dealt. Because the attack is considered to have hit you, it would have had to have made contact and therefor dealt damage. Even effects which reduce damage taken first have the creature deal the damage, then apply the effect (reduction) and finally apply the total
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I figured this would be the case. Ta
Yeah, I would make the damage simultaneous for convenience.
I mean it is Wild Magic, so if you want to say
the creature died > so it never hit > so it never triggered the damage > so it never died > now you're in a parallel universe
you're free to do it that way! But yeah I'd consider "retribution" to require damage that must be avenged.
My homebrew subclasses (full list here)
(Artificer) Swordmage | Glasswright | (Barbarian) Path of the Savage Embrace
(Bard) College of Dance | (Fighter) Warlord | Cannoneer
(Monk) Way of the Elements | (Ranger) Blade Dancer
(Rogue) DaggerMaster | Inquisitor | (Sorcerer) Riftwalker | Spellfist
(Warlock) The Swarm
I'll be perfectly honest, I was looking at whether it was possible to exploit the mechanics.
The only way it could, potentially, work another way is to say that the damage occurs to the attacker at the instant the attack hits. If that kills them, it could rob the blow of all power, thereby negative the damage. However, I never realistically expected that to wash...