I know this was not directed at me, but I’ll respond. I rather like Arondir‘a story. Right now, his tale is the only one where things actually seem to be happening—the mystery about what the orcs are searching for, a present threat to townsfolk, the question of the child who found the Sauron-marked hilt, etc. He seems like an interesting character, and I want to learn more about him and his internal conflict between his personal feelings toward humans and the history between elves and humans in that region. His is a great example of why not every story needs to be epic—sometimes small stories about regular folk thrust into execrations circumstances can be even more compelling than the stories of the movers and shakers of nations.
Given Tolkien’s desire for others to explore his world, and his personal preference for telling stories through the eyes of the seemingly unexceptional, I think Arondir’s story feels most like something out of Tolkien’a non-mythological works.
I agree with you on those points, but I really don’t like Arondir cause he doesn’t seem to have a particularly interesting personality. His story is cool, but he himself isn’t.
And honestly, the buzzcut, torn off sleeves, big biceps, and general lack of the super hot and slender elf look make it really hard for me to see him as an elf. Who cares about his skin colour, just make him look like an elf and I’m perfectly happy. That being said, just looking human seems to be a problem with all the elves except Galadriel.
I know this was not directed at me, but I’ll respond. I rather like Arondir‘a story. Right now, his tale is the only one where things actually seem to be happening—the mystery about what the orcs are searching for, a present threat to townsfolk, the question of the child who found the Sauron-marked hilt, etc. He seems like an interesting character, and I want to learn more about him and his internal conflict between his personal feelings toward humans and the history between elves and humans in that region. His is a great example of why not every story needs to be epic—sometimes small stories about regular folk thrust into execrations circumstances can be even more compelling than the stories of the movers and shakers of nations.
Given Tolkien’s desire for others to explore his world, and his personal preference for telling stories through the eyes of the seemingly unexceptional, I think Arondir’s story feels most like something out of Tolkien’a non-mythological works.
I agree with you on those points, but I really don’t like Arondir cause he doesn’t seem to have a particularly interesting personality. His story is cool, but he himself isn’t.
And honestly, the buzzcut, torn off sleeves, big biceps, and general lack of the super hot and slender elf look make it really hard for me to see him as an elf. Who cares about his skin colour, just make him look like an elf and I’m perfectly happy. That being said, just looking human seems to be a problem with all the elves except Galadriel.
I am not sure I agree about his lack of character - Cordova is doing quite a lot with Arondir as an actor. Though Arondir does not have much in the way of dialogue (a blessing in a show that over relies on dialogue so far), Cordova says a whole lot with his facial expressions and body language.
He is, after all, playing an elf—a creature known for their stoicism. But he is also playing a young elf, who has only known the times of peace and cannot understand why he is supposed to hate the humans he is assigned to watch. Cardoza portrays his character as someone born and raised to be stoic, who is constantly betraying inner emotions - from longing and pain when he looks at the herbalist, to a touch of confusion when his commander is lecturing him on the evils of humanity, Cardoza manages to make Arondir into a character that—even if one does not think looks elvish—is the only one really acting elvish.
Frankly, I think he is doing far more with less material than Clark is as Galadriel—Clark has been overacting and over-emoting the entire show, to the extent it would feel excessive even if her character was human. I personally find the character where every fibre of their being screams a complex, conflicted personality far more compelling and believable than one who glares at everyone and calls it acting.
So far it's the elf that's trying to escape the orcs, the escape/fight seen was really fun. Though I think the show needs to work on: Show, don't tell.
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I know this was not directed at me, but I’ll respond. I rather like Arondir‘a story. Right now, his tale is the only one where things actually seem to be happening—the mystery about what the orcs are searching for, a present threat to townsfolk, the question of the child who found the Sauron-marked hilt, etc. He seems like an interesting character, and I want to learn more about him and his internal conflict between his personal feelings toward humans and the history between elves and humans in that region. His is a great example of why not every story needs to be epic—sometimes small stories about regular folk thrust into execrations circumstances can be even more compelling than the stories of the movers and shakers of nations.
Given Tolkien’s desire for others to explore his world, and his personal preference for telling stories through the eyes of the seemingly unexceptional, I think Arondir’s story feels most like something out of Tolkien’a non-mythological works.
I agree with you on those points, but I really don’t like Arondir cause he doesn’t seem to have a particularly interesting personality. His story is cool, but he himself isn’t.
And honestly, the buzzcut, torn off sleeves, big biceps, and general lack of the super hot and slender elf look make it really hard for me to see him as an elf. Who cares about his skin colour, just make him look like an elf and I’m perfectly happy. That being said, just looking human seems to be a problem with all the elves except Galadriel.
I am not sure I agree about his lack of character - Cordova is doing quite a lot with Arondir as an actor. Though Arondir does not have much in the way of dialogue (a blessing in a show that over relies on dialogue so far), Cordova says a whole lot with his facial expressions and body language.
He is, after all, playing an elf—a creature known for their stoicism. But he is also playing a young elf, who has only known the times of peace and cannot understand why he is supposed to hate the humans he is assigned to watch. Cardoza portrays his character as someone born and raised to be stoic, who is constantly betraying inner emotions - from longing and pain when he looks at the herbalist, to a touch of confusion when his commander is lecturing him on the evils of humanity, Cardoza manages to make Arondir into a character that—even if one does not think looks elvish—is the only one really acting elvish.
Frankly, I think he is doing far more with less material than Clark is as Galadriel—Clark has been overacting and over-emoting the entire show, to the extent it would feel excessive even if her character was human. I personally find the character where every fibre of their being screams a complex, conflicted personality far more compelling and believable than one who glares at everyone and calls it acting.
Fair enough. I’m clearly not paying attention to this closely enough as my mind is always heavily numbed by Galadriel and the Harfoots (who are murderous psychopaths who leave their family to die on such a regular basis they have a whole freaking book of their names, and remember them by saying “we will wait for you” when it’s NOT WAITING FOR THEM THAT KILLED THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE! Jesus I dunno if the showrunners are intentionally making hobbits evil or simply too thick to realize it).
Yeah, Galadriel sucks. The only bit where she’s not acting like a jerk is when she’s in horseback, and the corresponding scene is one of the cheesiest and cringiest in the show. That grin…
The horse actually is rather fascinating and worth talking about. If anyone was wondering why the horse looked a bit odd, it is because it was--they used a white horse, which is extremely rare to see on film. True white horses, like the one from the show, have pink skin which is somewhat visible through their hair, resulting in the orange-tinged coloration of Galadriel's horse.
Compare to the snow-white Shadowfax from the Lord of the Rings film trilogy. Though he appears snow white, the horse used was a grey, which is the near-universal choice for anyone filming a horse with white coloration. Unlike white horses, greys have dark skin and hair which loses pigmentation over time, eventually becoming more white. This combination of darker skin and pigmentation loss results in a whiter coat, making them the generally preferred choice for film.
Granted, that is not to say the directors were wrong to use a white horse--they are not my preference and are a bit unusual to see, but I am sure there are plenty of horse enthusiasts out there who think her steed is magnificent and are happy to see their preferred coloration receiving attention.
The horse actually is rather fascinating and worth talking about. If anyone was wondering why the horse looked a bit odd, it is because it was--they used a white horse, which is extremely rare to see on film. True white horses, like the one from the show, have pink skin which is somewhat visible through their hair, resulting in the orange-tinged coloration of Galadriel's horse.
Compare to the snow-white Shadowfax from the Lord of the Rings film trilogy. Though he appears snow white, the horse used was a grey, which is the near-universal choice for anyone filming a horse with white coloration. Unlike white horses, greys have dark skin and hair which loses pigmentation over time, eventually becoming more white. This combination of darker skin and pigmentation loss results in a whiter coat, making them the generally preferred choice for film.
Granted, that is not to say the directors were wrong to use a white horse--they are not my preference and are a bit unusual to see, but I am sure there are plenty of horse enthusiasts out there who think her steed is magnificent and are happy to see their preferred coloration receiving attention.
Why do I have a feeling the showrunners are just so incompetent they didn’t realize the orange effect would happen.
The horse actually is rather fascinating and worth talking about. If anyone was wondering why the horse looked a bit odd, it is because it was--they used a white horse, which is extremely rare to see on film. True white horses, like the one from the show, have pink skin which is somewhat visible through their hair, resulting in the orange-tinged coloration of Galadriel's horse.
Compare to the snow-white Shadowfax from the Lord of the Rings film trilogy. Though he appears snow white, the horse used was a grey, which is the near-universal choice for anyone filming a horse with white coloration. Unlike white horses, greys have dark skin and hair which loses pigmentation over time, eventually becoming more white. This combination of darker skin and pigmentation loss results in a whiter coat, making them the generally preferred choice for film.
Granted, that is not to say the directors were wrong to use a white horse--they are not my preference and are a bit unusual to see, but I am sure there are plenty of horse enthusiasts out there who think her steed is magnificent and are happy to see their preferred coloration receiving attention.
Why do I have a feeling the showrunners are just so incompetent they didn’t realize the orange effect would happen.
I am fairly certain this was not the case - personal distaste for white horses aside, it was the right horse for the shot. Take a look at the colours in the scene - ruddy browns and greys in the sand, churning water, and rock and a blue, but not vibrant, dress drawing attention to Galadriel. The white horse’s orange-pink colouration meshes better with the scenery than a white-coloured grey would—the grey would stand out against the background colours, commanding attention away from Galadriel in a way that was not what the directors wanted. That is not to mention the use of a rather rare horse colouration can arguably add to the “fantasy” feel by showing the viewers something their mind subconsciously find out of place.
Compare to Shadowfax’s big scene in LotR films. Even if we ignore the description of Shadowfax as snow white in the books (demanding a grey for the shots), the bright white Shadowfax stands out in every scene he is in. This was exactly what those shots needed - the scenery was the star of those panoramic shots, so they really needed a horse which could stand out, even when it was a distant dot at the centre of a vast view of the New Zealand countryside.
The horse actually is rather fascinating and worth talking about. If anyone was wondering why the horse looked a bit odd, it is because it was--they used a white horse, which is extremely rare to see on film. True white horses, like the one from the show, have pink skin which is somewhat visible through their hair, resulting in the orange-tinged coloration of Galadriel's horse.
Compare to the snow-white Shadowfax from the Lord of the Rings film trilogy. Though he appears snow white, the horse used was a grey, which is the near-universal choice for anyone filming a horse with white coloration. Unlike white horses, greys have dark skin and hair which loses pigmentation over time, eventually becoming more white. This combination of darker skin and pigmentation loss results in a whiter coat, making them the generally preferred choice for film.
Granted, that is not to say the directors were wrong to use a white horse--they are not my preference and are a bit unusual to see, but I am sure there are plenty of horse enthusiasts out there who think her steed is magnificent and are happy to see their preferred coloration receiving attention.
Why do I have a feeling the showrunners are just so incompetent they didn’t realize the orange effect would happen.
I am fairly certain this was not the case - personal distaste for white horses aside, it was the right horse for the shot. Take a look at the colours in the scene - ruddy browns and greys in the sand, churning water, and rock and a blue, but not vibrant, dress drawing attention to Galadriel. The white horse’s orange-pink colouration meshes better with the scenery than a white-coloured grey would—the grey would stand out against the background colours, commanding attention away from Galadriel in a way that was not what the directors wanted. That is not to mention the use of a rather rare horse colouration can arguably add to the “fantasy” feel by showing the viewers something their mind subconsciously find out of place.
Compare to Shadowfax’s big scene in LotR films. Even if we ignore the description of Shadowfax as snow white in the books (demanding a grey for the shots), the bright white Shadowfax stands out in every scene he is in. This was exactly what those shots needed - the scenery was the star of those panoramic shots, so they really needed a horse which could stand out, even when it was a distant dot at the centre of a vast view of the New Zealand countryside.
All fair, I just have a terrible opinion of the showrunners abilities and intelligence, based on all possible evidence.
Honestly, they are still probably better than Weiss and Benioff of Game of Thrones or Rafe Judkins from Wheel of Time. Weiss and Benioff are really, really bad at shoe construction—GoT’s good seasons were heavily overseen by Martin, who was a television writer and knows a thing or two about writing for TV (you can actually see his television writing in how he constructs the novels, which is why they stand out among the dredge of lengthy fantasy works). There is a drastic decline in quality once Martin became less involved and Weiss and Benioff lost the crutch of his skill.
Judkins likewise made a lot of questionable decisions, including dedicating an entire episode to a minor character where nothing advanced the main plot.
The show is exposition heavy and needs to pick up its pace (as of episode 3, I have not seen today’s episode and do not comment thereon) in some of its plot lines, but it is at least cohesive and beautifully shot. That is more than one could say about post-Martin GoT or any of WoT.
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interesting.
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I feel like I’m the only one that doesn’t know what’s going on. Oh well.
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I agree with you on those points, but I really don’t like Arondir cause he doesn’t seem to have a particularly interesting personality. His story is cool, but he himself isn’t.
And honestly, the buzzcut, torn off sleeves, big biceps, and general lack of the super hot and slender elf look make it really hard for me to see him as an elf. Who cares about his skin colour, just make him look like an elf and I’m perfectly happy. That being said, just looking human seems to be a problem with all the elves except Galadriel.
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I am not sure I agree about his lack of character - Cordova is doing quite a lot with Arondir as an actor. Though Arondir does not have much in the way of dialogue (a blessing in a show that over relies on dialogue so far), Cordova says a whole lot with his facial expressions and body language.
He is, after all, playing an elf—a creature known for their stoicism. But he is also playing a young elf, who has only known the times of peace and cannot understand why he is supposed to hate the humans he is assigned to watch. Cardoza portrays his character as someone born and raised to be stoic, who is constantly betraying inner emotions - from longing and pain when he looks at the herbalist, to a touch of confusion when his commander is lecturing him on the evils of humanity, Cardoza manages to make Arondir into a character that—even if one does not think looks elvish—is the only one really acting elvish.
Frankly, I think he is doing far more with less material than Clark is as Galadriel—Clark has been overacting and over-emoting the entire show, to the extent it would feel excessive even if her character was human. I personally find the character where every fibre of their being screams a complex, conflicted personality far more compelling and believable than one who glares at everyone and calls it acting.
So far it's the elf that's trying to escape the orcs, the escape/fight seen was really fun. Though I think the show needs to work on: Show, don't tell.
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Fair enough. I’m clearly not paying attention to this closely enough as my mind is always heavily numbed by Galadriel and the Harfoots (who are murderous psychopaths who leave their family to die on such a regular basis they have a whole freaking book of their names, and remember them by saying “we will wait for you” when it’s NOT WAITING FOR THEM THAT KILLED THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE! Jesus I dunno if the showrunners are intentionally making hobbits evil or simply too thick to realize it).
Yeah, Galadriel sucks. The only bit where she’s not acting like a jerk is when she’s in horseback, and the corresponding scene is one of the cheesiest and cringiest in the show. That grin…
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That succulent horse butt. Hmm. Rippling muscles... Yummy.
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The horse actually is rather fascinating and worth talking about. If anyone was wondering why the horse looked a bit odd, it is because it was--they used a white horse, which is extremely rare to see on film. True white horses, like the one from the show, have pink skin which is somewhat visible through their hair, resulting in the orange-tinged coloration of Galadriel's horse.
Compare to the snow-white Shadowfax from the Lord of the Rings film trilogy. Though he appears snow white, the horse used was a grey, which is the near-universal choice for anyone filming a horse with white coloration. Unlike white horses, greys have dark skin and hair which loses pigmentation over time, eventually becoming more white. This combination of darker skin and pigmentation loss results in a whiter coat, making them the generally preferred choice for film.
Granted, that is not to say the directors were wrong to use a white horse--they are not my preference and are a bit unusual to see, but I am sure there are plenty of horse enthusiasts out there who think her steed is magnificent and are happy to see their preferred coloration receiving attention.
Why do I have a feeling the showrunners are just so incompetent they didn’t realize the orange effect would happen.
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I am fairly certain this was not the case - personal distaste for white horses aside, it was the right horse for the shot. Take a look at the colours in the scene - ruddy browns and greys in the sand, churning water, and rock and a blue, but not vibrant, dress drawing attention to Galadriel. The white horse’s orange-pink colouration meshes better with the scenery than a white-coloured grey would—the grey would stand out against the background colours, commanding attention away from Galadriel in a way that was not what the directors wanted. That is not to mention the use of a rather rare horse colouration can arguably add to the “fantasy” feel by showing the viewers something their mind subconsciously find out of place.
Compare to Shadowfax’s big scene in LotR films. Even if we ignore the description of Shadowfax as snow white in the books (demanding a grey for the shots), the bright white Shadowfax stands out in every scene he is in. This was exactly what those shots needed - the scenery was the star of those panoramic shots, so they really needed a horse which could stand out, even when it was a distant dot at the centre of a vast view of the New Zealand countryside.
All fair, I just have a terrible opinion of the showrunners abilities and intelligence, based on all possible evidence.
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Honestly, they are still probably better than Weiss and Benioff of Game of Thrones or Rafe Judkins from Wheel of Time. Weiss and Benioff are really, really bad at shoe construction—GoT’s good seasons were heavily overseen by Martin, who was a television writer and knows a thing or two about writing for TV (you can actually see his television writing in how he constructs the novels, which is why they stand out among the dredge of lengthy fantasy works). There is a drastic decline in quality once Martin became less involved and Weiss and Benioff lost the crutch of his skill.
Judkins likewise made a lot of questionable decisions, including dedicating an entire episode to a minor character where nothing advanced the main plot.
The show is exposition heavy and needs to pick up its pace (as of episode 3, I have not seen today’s episode and do not comment thereon) in some of its plot lines, but it is at least cohesive and beautifully shot. That is more than one could say about post-Martin GoT or any of WoT.
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interesting.
no questions on my part.
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don't worry, Nothic, I am as oblivious as you.
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Hmmm.
I mean, I am never content with not knowing things, but if you guys insist, I will, of course, not disrespect any of your wishes, regarding whatever happened.
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I can tel you if you want, I don’t know a ton of details though.
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