hey guys? do you ever think about your kill count in DnD? Like that cultist trying to stab you, or that baby black dragon who's egg you smashed before it could hatch. It made me think about where that was coming from inside of me. That bloodlust, that murderous feeling.
That’s interesting you mention that. The one scene in 5e I really can’t stand is the one in Tyranny of Dragons where it describes in graphic detail how you can smash the black dragon eggs and kill the baby dragons inside. Literally made me feel sick. I have no problem killing a cultist who tried to stab me though.
It feels wrong to kill a baby. And the explanation of “it’s evil” just doesn’t feel okay. Most dnd players, I hope, would be disgusted if their campaign had you slaughter a drow baby and sell it’s organs. But dragons are just as intelligent. Wotc has been putting effort into making it so that the traditionally “evil” peoples are more fleshed out (orcs etc.) but it’s somehow still fine to murder baby dragons.
I’m assuming for this that the wyrmlings have advanced enough through their incubation so that they’re actually dragons and not just squishy dragon cell clumps.
I think you're attaching a bit much of yourself to your character, just because Jack the pirate killed a baby dragon doesn't necessarily make it a moral choice for you in the real world. Though in general characters are somewhat expected to be morally well meaning The reason orcs and goblins were considered for changes is because they have a history in racism. (obviously its unrealistic to have an entire race in a fantasy setting be evil, but if there's lore reasons it doesn't make it racist) Personally I don't mind using classic orcs and goblins. Goblin raiding party? Probably evil. But I think a lot of goblins in fantasy are probably not that bad, they're just not the ones bothering adventurers.
(Note: I have not read this passage in the Tyranny of Dragons, so I'm not saying it was a good idea to add to the book, I'm just responding more broadly to this conversation)
I mean yeah it's a story, it would be surprising if you didn't get at least a little bit attached to it. And the game's about immersion overall
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hey guys? do you ever think about your kill count in DnD? Like that cultist trying to stab you, or that baby black dragon who's egg you smashed before it could hatch. It made me think about where that was coming from inside of me. That bloodlust, that murderous feeling.
That’s interesting you mention that. The one scene in 5e I really can’t stand is the one in Tyranny of Dragons where it describes in graphic detail how you can smash the black dragon eggs and kill the baby dragons inside. Literally made me feel sick. I have no problem killing a cultist who tried to stab me though.
It feels wrong to kill a baby. And the explanation of “it’s evil” just doesn’t feel okay. Most dnd players, I hope, would be disgusted if their campaign had you slaughter a drow baby and sell it’s organs. But dragons are just as intelligent. Wotc has been putting effort into making it so that the traditionally “evil” peoples are more fleshed out (orcs etc.) but it’s somehow still fine to murder baby dragons.
I’m assuming for this that the wyrmlings have advanced enough through their incubation so that they’re actually dragons and not just squishy dragon cell clumps.
I think you're attaching a bit much of yourself to your character, just because Jack the pirate killed a baby dragon doesn't necessarily make it a moral choice for you in the real world. Though in general characters are somewhat expected to be morally well meaning The reason orcs and goblins were considered for changes is because they have a history in racism. (obviously its unrealistic to have an entire race in a fantasy setting be evil, but if there's lore reasons it doesn't make it racist) Personally I don't mind using classic orcs and goblins. Goblin raiding party? Probably evil. But I think a lot of goblins in fantasy are probably not that bad, they're just not the ones bothering adventurers.
(Note: I have not read this passage in the Tyranny of Dragons, so I'm not saying it was a good idea to add to the book, I'm just responding more broadly to this conversation)
I mean yeah it's a story, it would be surprising if you didn't get at least a little bit attached to it. And the game's about immersion overall
I get that, but the first post in this chain seems to be implying they think they have a bloodlust or something because of what they did in a tabletop role playing game. Thinking about what your character did and their morals (or even contrasting your own) is good and cool, but an in game action is not entirely connected to you as a person, yknow?
I could also be completely misunderstanding what’s going on in this chain, I’m which case my bad
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hey guys? do you ever think about your kill count in DnD? Like that cultist trying to stab you, or that baby black dragon who's egg you smashed before it could hatch. It made me think about where that was coming from inside of me. That bloodlust, that murderous feeling.
That’s interesting you mention that. The one scene in 5e I really can’t stand is the one in Tyranny of Dragons where it describes in graphic detail how you can smash the black dragon eggs and kill the baby dragons inside. Literally made me feel sick. I have no problem killing a cultist who tried to stab me though.
It feels wrong to kill a baby. And the explanation of “it’s evil” just doesn’t feel okay. Most dnd players, I hope, would be disgusted if their campaign had you slaughter a drow baby and sell it’s organs. But dragons are just as intelligent. Wotc has been putting effort into making it so that the traditionally “evil” peoples are more fleshed out (orcs etc.) but it’s somehow still fine to murder baby dragons.
I’m assuming for this that the wyrmlings have advanced enough through their incubation so that they’re actually dragons and not just squishy dragon cell clumps.
I think you're attaching a bit much of yourself to your character, just because Jack the pirate killed a baby dragon doesn't necessarily make it a moral choice for you in the real world. Though in general characters are somewhat expected to be morally well meaning The reason orcs and goblins were considered for changes is because they have a history in racism. (obviously its unrealistic to have an entire race in a fantasy setting be evil, but if there's lore reasons it doesn't make it racist) Personally I don't mind using classic orcs and goblins. Goblin raiding party? Probably evil. But I think a lot of goblins in fantasy are probably not that bad, they're just not the ones bothering adventurers.
(Note: I have not read this passage in the Tyranny of Dragons, so I'm not saying it was a good idea to add to the book, I'm just responding more broadly to this conversation)
I mean yeah it's a story, it would be surprising if you didn't get at least a little bit attached to it. And the game's about immersion overall
I get that, but the first post in this chain seems to be implying they think they have a bloodlust or something because of what they did in a tabletop role playing game. Thinking about what your character did and their morals (or even contrasting your own) is good and cool, but an in game action is not entirely connected to you as a person, yknow?
I could also be completely misunderstanding what’s going on in this chain, I’m which case my bad
Well if you're attached to the story you're gonna feel emotions from it. That happens from any sort of media. If you have a fictional character who does horrible, horrible things, you're probably gonna feel disgusted by it even by watching. Then that's kinda amplified when you do that yourself-- because even if it's not actually you, it's your own creation and you're controlling them, so you're gonna feel from their actions more. That's just how immersion works
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I mean yeah it's a story, it would be surprising if you didn't get at least a little bit attached to it. And the game's about immersion overall
Hello! I am a perfectly sane gibberer. Hi! :D
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Bang! Bang! Maxwell's silver hammer came down upon her head
Clang! Clang! Maxwell's silver hammer made sure that she was dead
I get that, but the first post in this chain seems to be implying they think they have a bloodlust or something because of what they did in a tabletop role playing game. Thinking about what your character did and their morals (or even contrasting your own) is good and cool, but an in game action is not entirely connected to you as a person, yknow?
I could also be completely misunderstanding what’s going on in this chain, I’m which case my bad
Bang! Bang! Maxwell's silver hammer came down upon her head
Clang! Clang! Maxwell's silver hammer made sure that she was dead
Well if you're attached to the story you're gonna feel emotions from it. That happens from any sort of media. If you have a fictional character who does horrible, horrible things, you're probably gonna feel disgusted by it even by watching. Then that's kinda amplified when you do that yourself-- because even if it's not actually you, it's your own creation and you're controlling them, so you're gonna feel from their actions more. That's just how immersion works
Hello! I am a perfectly sane gibberer. Hi! :D
Locations are dead, the Temple of Potassium has fallen but its ideals live on
A mysterious link of chain... (Extended signature). PRAISE JEFF THE EVIL ROOMBA! REALLY cool video.
One of the Warlock Patrons on the forums. Low, low price of your soul, your firstborn child and your liver!
Titles: The Echoing Story Spewer from Drummer, the Endless Maws from Isis, the Mad Murderer from PJ
I read the ultimate hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy in a week so yes it was
Artise🖌️🎨
Totally not part Asian🍜
Has cars (cats) 🐱🐈🐈⬛😸😹😺😻😼😽😾😿🙀
I've read the Harry Potter series in a week, 4 times
"The Biggest problem D&D player face is their own bad decisions." "What doesn't kill you makes you more likely to die."- Thauraeln_The_Bol "Well, hey, if it ain't broke, then break it!"Former_Queen_Yvonne
See my homebrew spells, monsters, and this thread
part of the cult of science, and the Cult of the Nothic, and plays on Tenbrae Sine Fine
Please help us!!! (Link) Nickname is Colton. PM ME THE WORD TOMATO.
The best name for the mad gibber