Okay, the title says it all really. Are there any classes or roles (e.g bruiser, support etc) you just WON'T play? I would love to see a general idea of the most hated classes/roles, but also the reasons why. I would VERY RARELY play a cleric or paladin, not because I'm not religious but because I wouldn't like to roleplay them how they are. I would definitley play warlock, because the relationship of the pact is up to YOU, not a god telling you to do stuff. Please share your ideas, and tell me why!
I have now played every character class in the game with the exception of blood hunter, and will be playing that for the first time Friday. There are a few that I don't find much fun other than for tier 1 such as Ranger, Barbarian and Paladin, but the only hard limit I have is being a healbot - or people expecting me to be a healbot if I am playing a class that can heal. There are still a surprising number of people that get annoyed about casting spells such as bless / bane / shield of faith instead of saving spell slots to cast cure wounds on them during a fight.
I wouldn't out right say never to any class, but ranger and sorcerer are definitely at the bottom of the list. It would be easier to list subclasses that I'd never play: Undying Warlock, Arcane Archer fighter, Four Elements monk, Beastmaster Ranger, and various others.
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Is that out of sheer 'they aren't powerful enough/too circumstantial' or flavour? I see nothing wrong with arcane archer, considering it is 2 shots per short rest.
'I wouldn't out right say never to any class, but ranger and sorcerer are definitely at the bottom of the list. It would be easier to list subclasses that I'd never play: Undying Warlock, Arcane Archer fighter, Four Elements monk, Beastmaster Ranger, and various others.'
Honestly, you are are oversimplifying the relationship between a cleric and his god. First, it can really depend on the god, but you can have also very very different types of relationship. There are so many examples, but one of the easiest one in simple fantasy is in the Belgariad. There are 7 (OK, 8 but that is supposed to be a secret) gods, very different and the relationship that they have with their worshippers / clergy are extremely varied, from the very formal and terrifying to the absolutely genial and common day.
There can be no difference with your idea of a warlock, but I also think that your idea of a Warlock's relationship being up to YOU is also very simplified, you can't honestly tell me that any Warlock will tell Cthulhu what to do, at best he will try to survive the constraints and threats. In both cases, it's really up to the DM. And actually any character can be in a situation of having to report to or obey patrons, kings, emperors, whatever.
After that, it may not be for you, but playing a religious fanatic (within reasons, obviously, and within the boundaries of your session 0 / social contract / table rules, and of course with all the other players comfortable with it), or a crusader is a lot of fun.
As for me, it's not really a question of class, but I don't like dealing damage, for me that is brute force and totally lacks subtlety. So I will have a tendency not to play subclasses that emphasize damage over subtlety, whether it's relationships, intrigue, magic, stealth and infiltration, tactical combat, etc.
I understand where you are coming from. I think it is less 'i tell patron' and more 'i have some of my own terms in here, so make sure you read the small print please'. Most of the warlocks i have made (3 or 4 out of 5/6?) have had SOME element of choosing to have power, and so can have 1 or 2 small terms that benefit them, besides magic. e.g they don't have to worship loads, just put aside the occasional coin. I honestly agree that i oversimplified, but I just wouldn't play a cleric. Paladin is more probable, but only if in a very medieval game because that seems more fun then.
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That being said, I do have a paladin build based off of Pantheon from League of legends, who is his own god. Basically, they believe that men (humans not men the gender) are just as strong as god's. It would be really fun to play I think.
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I don't like Cleric and Bard. No, it's not because I don't like to heal, but rather the character themes. Paladin is nice, but the only subclass I'd play (at least until I happen to play a paladin again, which isn't likely) is Oath of Redemption. I wish Ranger were good. I like the theme a lot but he's just underwhelming. At least until I play some of the other characters. Same goes for berserker Barbarian - coolest name, worst option.
I don't like ranger. Base ranger seems boring and could be very weak depending on the DM. For ranger subclasses the only official one I am interested in is the Beastmaster and it's weak. The UA Drakewarden sounds cool but based on Tashas it's going to be nerfed until you only get a lizard and not a drake.
I don't like Cleric and Bard. No, it's not because I don't like to heal, but rather the character themes. Paladin is nice, but the only subclass I'd play (at least until I happen to play a paladin again, which isn't likely) is Oath of Redemption. I wish Ranger were good. I like the theme a lot but he's just underwhelming. At least until I play some of the other characters. Same goes for berserker Barbarian - coolest name, worst option.
Other than that, I'm fine with all.
Why don't you like cleric if you are fine with paladin? Not saying that not liking cleric is wrong but it's just to very similar themed classes, yet you don't like the theme of one of them.
I don't like ranger. Base ranger seems boring and could be very weak depending on the DM. For ranger subclasses the only official one I am interested in is the Beastmaster and it's weak. The UA Drakewarden sounds cool but based on Tashas it's going to be nerfed until you only get a lizard and not a drake.
I don't like Cleric and Bard. No, it's not because I don't like to heal, but rather the character themes. Paladin is nice, but the only subclass I'd play (at least until I happen to play a paladin again, which isn't likely) is Oath of Redemption. I wish Ranger were good. I like the theme a lot but he's just underwhelming. At least until I play some of the other characters. Same goes for berserker Barbarian - coolest name, worst option.
Other than that, I'm fine with all.
Why don't you like cleric if you are fine with paladin? Not saying that not liking cleric is wrong but it's just to very similar themed classes, yet you don't like the theme of one of them.
I know they're similar, but I don't think of them as the same. The way I see it, a Cleric is a religious character. They care much about their deity and it's a major part of them. A Paladin might be the same, but they might also be followers of the deity that merely strive to follow their commandments. Much more they'd care for their oath and tenants, as they're the guidelines they have chosen for themselves.
For example: I built a Paladin for a pbp campaign once (didn't get chosen sadly). The Paladin was an ex-soldier who was spared by his opponent - a Paladin - and begged to become their squire. They "believed" in the same deity as the other Paladin but didn't really care much about it. Much more important to them was the (how surprising) redemption they sought.
I could possibly do something similar with a Cleric, but that would be like creating a Druid that enjoys burning forests and killing animals. At least the way I see it.
I will never play a Bard. The stereotypical Bard is just a character I could never see myself being able to roleplay - and if I wasn't playing a stereotypical Bard - I would just play another caster class instead.
Until I learn how to use them properly, I'll not play classes with prepared spells/spell slots. That's not the fault of the classes as I know many people have no issues with them. That's a fault within me for now.
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Thematically, role playing a Bard or a Fighter doesn't interest me. Mechanically, every class has something interesting to it.
I've played two different Clerics, and it was fun role playing both of them.
The first Cleric was Lawful Evil, but a follower of Mystra. He did good things because it would benefit him, not because he actually cared about the people he was helping. He was a professor that wanted to move up into nobility, and realized that teaching wasn't a path to becoming nobility, so he became an adventurer as a result of his mid life crisis. You don't have to have the same alignment as your deity.
The second cleric is Chaotic Evil, a follower of Talos. She's a teenage girl and was kicked out of her house and became a street kid where she fell in with the Temple of Talos. She follows Talos because she wants to bring down destruction on those that wronged her. She despises the city of Luskan where she grew up because of their hostile and elitist attitude and the way she was treated by her family there, and the way the city treated her after she was kicked out of her house. She enjoys destruction and enjoys seeing enemies suffer.
I've really enjoyed role playing a pair of evil Clerics. I've also enjoyed role playing a pair of good Rogues and a good Warlock.
I'm sorry sposta, but druids for me are amazing. It might just be that I've grown up going to the woods and listen to Celtic music. Same goes for barbs and rangers: there's something I love about the word 'primal' and the ideas it provokes.
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I'm sorry sposta, but druids for me are amazing. It might just be that I've grown up going to the woods and listen to Celtic music. Same goes for barbs and rangers: there's something I love about the word 'primal' and the ideas it provokes.
I’m sorry Bramble, I couldn’t care less about going to the woods and listening to music of any variety if I had a gun to my head. I dislike the wilderness and hate music.
I can make almost any class work, but I rarely ever play Barbarian and Paladin.
Barbarian - I don’t care how many dice you roll or damage you do, this whole class is too simple. At least Fighters get extra Feats to give them more options besides ASIs, but this class is almost entirely too one-dimensional for me. I recommend it for beginners at the table for this reason, it’s easy to get used to how the dice work and not inundate the player with too many options first time through.
Paladin - I don’t like classes that tie roleplay into their class so heavily. Oaths are too restrictive for me and don’t provide enough nuance for the way I like to play.
I'm sorry sposta, but druids for me are amazing. It might just be that I've grown up going to the woods and listen to Celtic music. Same goes for barbs and rangers: there's something I love about the word 'primal' and the ideas it provokes.
I’m sorry Bramble, I couldn’t care less about going to the woods and listening to music of any variety if I had a gun to my head. I dislike the wilderness and hate music.
To each their own then
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I will never play a Bard. The stereotypical Bard is just a character I could never see myself being able to roleplay - and if I wasn't playing a stereotypical Bard - I would just play another caster class instead.
I love bards, but I don't think I've ever played a stereotypical one. My favourite was a spy / infiltrator who posed as a stereotypical one, though...
I'm sorry sposta, but druids for me are amazing. It might just be that I've grown up going to the woods and listen to Celtic music. Same goes for barbs and rangers: there's something I love about the word 'primal' and the ideas it provokes.
I’m sorry Bramble, I couldn’t care less about going to the woods and listening to music of any variety if I had a gun to my head. I dislike the wilderness and hate music.
Okay, the title says it all really. Are there any classes or roles (e.g bruiser, support etc) you just WON'T play? I would love to see a general idea of the most hated classes/roles, but also the reasons why. I would VERY RARELY play a cleric or paladin, not because I'm not religious but because I wouldn't like to roleplay them how they are. I would definitley play warlock, because the relationship of the pact is up to YOU, not a god telling you to do stuff. Please share your ideas, and tell me why!
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I have now played every character class in the game with the exception of blood hunter, and will be playing that for the first time Friday. There are a few that I don't find much fun other than for tier 1 such as Ranger, Barbarian and Paladin, but the only hard limit I have is being a healbot - or people expecting me to be a healbot if I am playing a class that can heal. There are still a surprising number of people that get annoyed about casting spells such as bless / bane / shield of faith instead of saving spell slots to cast cure wounds on them during a fight.
I wouldn't out right say never to any class, but ranger and sorcerer are definitely at the bottom of the list. It would be easier to list subclasses that I'd never play: Undying Warlock, Arcane Archer fighter, Four Elements monk, Beastmaster Ranger, and various others.
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"Canon" is what's factual to D&D lore. "Cannon" is what you're going to be shot with if you keep getting the word wrong.
Is that out of sheer 'they aren't powerful enough/too circumstantial' or flavour? I see nothing wrong with arcane archer, considering it is 2 shots per short rest.
'I wouldn't out right say never to any class, but ranger and sorcerer are definitely at the bottom of the list. It would be easier to list subclasses that I'd never play: Undying Warlock, Arcane Archer fighter, Four Elements monk, Beastmaster Ranger, and various others.'
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I understand where you are coming from. I think it is less 'i tell patron' and more 'i have some of my own terms in here, so make sure you read the small print please'. Most of the warlocks i have made (3 or 4 out of 5/6?) have had SOME element of choosing to have power, and so can have 1 or 2 small terms that benefit them, besides magic. e.g they don't have to worship loads, just put aside the occasional coin. I honestly agree that i oversimplified, but I just wouldn't play a cleric. Paladin is more probable, but only if in a very medieval game because that seems more fun then.
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That being said, I do have a paladin build based off of Pantheon from League of legends, who is his own god. Basically, they believe that men (humans not men the gender) are just as strong as god's. It would be really fun to play I think.
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I don't like Cleric and Bard. No, it's not because I don't like to heal, but rather the character themes. Paladin is nice, but the only subclass I'd play (at least until I happen to play a paladin again, which isn't likely) is Oath of Redemption. I wish Ranger were good. I like the theme a lot but he's just underwhelming. At least until I play some of the other characters. Same goes for berserker Barbarian - coolest name, worst option.
Other than that, I'm fine with all.
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I don't like ranger. Base ranger seems boring and could be very weak depending on the DM. For ranger subclasses the only official one I am interested in is the Beastmaster and it's weak. The UA Drakewarden sounds cool but based on Tashas it's going to be nerfed until you only get a lizard and not a drake.
Why don't you like cleric if you are fine with paladin? Not saying that not liking cleric is wrong but it's just to very similar themed classes, yet you don't like the theme of one of them.
When players get creative.
I don't really like Bards or Clerics. The flavor doesn't really interest me, and neither does the game play.
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I know they're similar, but I don't think of them as the same. The way I see it, a Cleric is a religious character. They care much about their deity and it's a major part of them. A Paladin might be the same, but they might also be followers of the deity that merely strive to follow their commandments. Much more they'd care for their oath and tenants, as they're the guidelines they have chosen for themselves.
For example: I built a Paladin for a pbp campaign once (didn't get chosen sadly). The Paladin was an ex-soldier who was spared by his opponent - a Paladin - and begged to become their squire. They "believed" in the same deity as the other Paladin but didn't really care much about it. Much more important to them was the (how surprising) redemption they sought.
I could possibly do something similar with a Cleric, but that would be like creating a Druid that enjoys burning forests and killing animals. At least the way I see it.
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I will never play a Bard. The stereotypical Bard is just a character I could never see myself being able to roleplay - and if I wasn't playing a stereotypical Bard - I would just play another caster class instead.
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Until I learn how to use them properly, I'll not play classes with prepared spells/spell slots. That's not the fault of the classes as I know many people have no issues with them. That's a fault within me for now.
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Thematically, role playing a Bard or a Fighter doesn't interest me. Mechanically, every class has something interesting to it.
I've played two different Clerics, and it was fun role playing both of them.
The first Cleric was Lawful Evil, but a follower of Mystra. He did good things because it would benefit him, not because he actually cared about the people he was helping. He was a professor that wanted to move up into nobility, and realized that teaching wasn't a path to becoming nobility, so he became an adventurer as a result of his mid life crisis. You don't have to have the same alignment as your deity.
The second cleric is Chaotic Evil, a follower of Talos. She's a teenage girl and was kicked out of her house and became a street kid where she fell in with the Temple of Talos. She follows Talos because she wants to bring down destruction on those that wronged her. She despises the city of Luskan where she grew up because of their hostile and elitist attitude and the way she was treated by her family there, and the way the city treated her after she was kicked out of her house. She enjoys destruction and enjoys seeing enemies suffer.
I've really enjoyed role playing a pair of evil Clerics. I've also enjoyed role playing a pair of good Rogues and a good Warlock.
Barbarian and Druid mostly, they bore me.
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I'm sorry sposta, but druids for me are amazing. It might just be that I've grown up going to the woods and listen to Celtic music. Same goes for barbs and rangers: there's something I love about the word 'primal' and the ideas it provokes.
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I’m sorry Bramble, I couldn’t care less about going to the woods and listening to music of any variety if I had a gun to my head. I dislike the wilderness and hate music.
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I can make almost any class work, but I rarely ever play Barbarian and Paladin.
Barbarian - I don’t care how many dice you roll or damage you do, this whole class is too simple. At least Fighters get extra Feats to give them more options besides ASIs, but this class is almost entirely too one-dimensional for me. I recommend it for beginners at the table for this reason, it’s easy to get used to how the dice work and not inundate the player with too many options first time through.
Paladin - I don’t like classes that tie roleplay into their class so heavily. Oaths are too restrictive for me and don’t provide enough nuance for the way I like to play.
To each their own then
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That is... amazing
When players get creative.
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