At this point, I do not think the show's long-term potential can be judged. As anyone with an understanding of fiction knows, the hardest part of writing is the introduction--you have to introduce the viewer to the world, the characters, the backstory, etc. This is particularly difficult with established intellectual property, where you run the risk of boring folks who already know the situation or losing folks who know nothing about the franchise.
Thus far, the showrunners have leaned heavily on exposition and assuming the viewer already recognizes "Galadriel/Elrond = folks the viewer should care about" and "Sauron = bad guy", without doing much to establish them as characters the viewer should care about in a vacuum, independent of knowledge outside of the show. They have relied heavily on Galadriel and Elrond and the trust the viewer has in them to introduce the world (ex. telling us "this is the High King, care about him also!" without really introducing Gil-Galad as anything outside exposition). The desire to introduce the world also has led to a lack of actual conflict thus far--we know there is supposed to be some conflict out there because we know Sauron = bad guy from outside knowledge, but the majority of the urgency and drive we are supposed to feel comes from Galadriel telling us there is urgency in exposition--failing the "show don't tell" rule of good script writing.
Still, these are novice showrunners working with the most difficult canon--and one of the worst fandoms--literature has to offer. That they are struggling in the most difficult stage of writing does not necessarily mean they are always going to struggle.
And there is potential moving forward. They nailed the dwarves (though dwarves are some of the easiest fantasy races to nail). There is potential in Arondir and Bronwyn's story--it is the only story where we actually have something compelling happening other than pure exposition. Elrond stated to become more interesting of a character when he was actually moving the story forward and showing some agency, rather than being a mouthpiece for exposition told to explain to Galadriel (but really the viewer) everything that was going on.
As for the "destroying the lore" position, I am not overly concerned about that--assuming the writing improves. A true fan of Tolkien would know that you could never "destroy the lore" because the lore itself is protean and, by Tolkien's own desire, subject to be changed. Tolkien always wanted LotR to be a shared mythology that other folks would take up after his death--and, like any mythology, subject to different interpretations and different retellings that are not always congruent (see Homer having Zeus be the oldest of the Olympians, even though every other source has him as the youngest, and him being the oldest makes little sense).
All told, I was not super impressed with the exposition dump of episode one and two, but I'll give the writers the benefit of the doubt and see how well they do once they have actually established their world and start moving on to developing it.
I agree, espcially with the second to last paraghraph
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At this point, I do not think the show's long-term potential can be judged. As anyone with an understanding of fiction knows, the hardest part of writing is the introduction--you have to introduce the viewer to the world, the characters, the backstory, etc. This is particularly difficult with established intellectual property, where you run the risk of boring folks who already know the situation or losing folks who know nothing about the franchise.
Thus far, the showrunners have leaned heavily on exposition and assuming the viewer already recognizes "Galadriel/Elrond = folks the viewer should care about" and "Sauron = bad guy", without doing much to establish them as characters the viewer should care about in a vacuum, independent of knowledge outside of the show. They have relied heavily on Galadriel and Elrond and the trust the viewer has in them to introduce the world (ex. telling us "this is the High King, care about him also!" without really introducing Gil-Galad as anything outside exposition). The desire to introduce the world also has led to a lack of actual conflict thus far--we know there is supposed to be some conflict out there because we know Sauron = bad guy from outside knowledge, but the majority of the urgency and drive we are supposed to feel comes from Galadriel telling us there is urgency in exposition--failing the "show don't tell" rule of good script writing.
Still, these are novice showrunners working with the most difficult canon--and one of the worst fandoms--literature has to offer. That they are struggling in the most difficult stage of writing does not necessarily mean they are always going to struggle.
And there is potential moving forward. They nailed the dwarves (though dwarves are some of the easiest fantasy races to nail). There is potential in Arondir and Bronwyn's story--it is the only story where we actually have something compelling happening other than pure exposition. Elrond stated to become more interesting of a character when he was actually moving the story forward and showing some agency, rather than being a mouthpiece for exposition told to explain to Galadriel (but really the viewer) everything that was going on.
As for the "destroying the lore" position, I am not overly concerned about that--assuming the writing improves. A true fan of Tolkien would know that you could never "destroy the lore" because the lore itself is protean and, by Tolkien's own desire, subject to be changed. Tolkien always wanted LotR to be a shared mythology that other folks would take up after his death--and, like any mythology, subject to different interpretations and different retellings that are not always congruent (see Homer having Zeus be the oldest of the Olympians, even though every other source has him as the youngest, and him being the oldest makes little sense).
All told, I was not super impressed with the exposition dump of episode one and two, but I'll give the writers the benefit of the doubt and see how well they do once they have actually established their world and start moving on to developing it.
I can agree with all of this, tho I still think Arondir effectively taking over what should be Galadriel’s plot so she can be where the real stuff’s going down (Numenor) is dumb.
Also that I did forget to mention, the dwarves were perfect. Loud rude immature bearded Scotsman with the worst manners you could possibly imagine.
Oh yeah and the fake Tolkien dialogue is still so cringe and awful they need to improve that. “Do you know why a ship floats while a rock sinks? It’s cause the rock looks down and only sees the darkness, while the ship looks up and sees the light that guides us.” Galadriel: “But sometimes the light is reflected in the water and you can’t tell which one is real anymore”
AAAAAAAAAAAA 🤬🤬😤😤 what complete, pure, bullshit. I died just watching it. I have never heard so much gibberish and complete nonsensical bullshit ever. Even if the show gets good, I will never forget that line. It’s gonna haunt my nightmares for months now isn’t it.
Also @Caerwyn, if you can tolerate the lore changes of RoP, you’re not allowed to complain about the Hobbit anymore lol. RoP makes the Hobbit lore changes look positively non-existent by comparison.
Also @Caerwyn, if you can tolerate the lore changes of RoP, you’re not allowed to complain about the Hobbit anymore lol. RoP makes the Hobbit lore changes look positively non-existent by comparison.
As was clearly stated, I will be forgiving of lore changes if they are competently executed--the Hobbit was decidedly not, the entire film feeling like the studio forced the production into three films (the pacing suffering as a result) and an overreliance on CGI instead of practical effects which forced shoehorning in of unnecessary CGI heavy scenes. Take, for example, the Battle of the Five Armies--the way it was handled in the book would not have worked for film, and there was always going to be a battle scene (despite Bilbo falling unconscious). It did not have to be a CGI slug fest with Dune's Sandworms, poorly rendered Orlando Bloom CGI, and some of the worst fight choreography this side of The Last Jedi (or, I suppose, the orc fight in RoP, which... yikes!).
The LotR films likewise have plenty of lore changes--but most fans of the franchise let those slide because they were well-written and felt like an organic element of the films' story. They also did not feel shoehorned in for any reason other than "we need these to make a film" (as compared to "we need these to make money" from the Hobbit.) Time will only tell if the writers of RoP are more Hobbit or more LotR. But, even in this, I see hope. Right now, though I think the writing is a bit on the novice side of things, at least there does not seem to be the heavy hand of Amazon on the show itself--a show can always recover as writers move past the difficult introduction and develop their skills; they cannot always survive producer meddling.
Another topic would be the LotR mtg set, what would you guys like to see?
About a week ago we got some new looks at the art for the LotR MTG set.
Magic fans are familiar with panoramic cards--cards that, when put together, form a larger image. The LotR set will have the biggest panoramic yet--eighteen cards forming an image from the Battle of Pelennor Fields:
This also provides our first look at Aragorn in the set:
Certainly will be interesting to see what they do with the development. I am glad it will be at a Modern Horizons power level--that allows them to branch out a little more than a Standard set would permit.
Oh forgot to mention, so you remember how Amazon’s entire marketing campaign seemed to be based around “we’re representing so many different cultures in this see aren’t we nice people we’re totally not evil slave drivers”?
They seem to have done a great job. We get Irish hobbits, Scottish dwarves, English elves (and Arondir). There’s just a minor problem, they’ve managed to make THE ENTIRE POPULATION OF IRELAND HATE THE SHOW.
Yeah, in one of the most insulting and racist portrayals of Ireland in cinematic history (and believe me, there’s been hundreds of those), you can really tell the Americans Amazons know what they’re doing. After the Irish Times (the national Irish newspaper/site) did a massive article ranting on Amazon, well, let’s just say it’s not looking good. Yup, making an ENTIRE F-ING COUNTRY hate your show is a great way to get a hit.
The Harfoots are so racist and insulting it’s a joke. It’s the part where they’re slathered in muck, twigs in their hair, and are depicted as simpletons. Which is standard for Hobbits, UNTIL YOU MAKE THEM IRISH. Then it becomes the most racist stereotype in history. Oh, and the Irish accents of the characters make Mel Gibson’s Scottish accent in Braveheart look amazing.
Another topic would be the LotR mtg set, what would you guys like to see?
About a week ago we got some new looks at the art for the LotR MTG set.
Magic fans are familiar with panoramic cards--cards that, when put together, form a larger image. The LotR set will have the biggest panoramic yet--eighteen cards forming an image from the Battle of Pelennor Fields:
This also provides our first look at Aragorn in the set:
Certainly will be interesting to see what they do with the development. I am glad it will be at a Modern Horizons power level--that allows them to branch out a little more than a Standard set would permit.
Its not modern horizons power level, its only skipping Standard and going straight to modern. They're different.
However, they could be? I just feel like it will be geared for Commander, not Modern, so.... nothing at all that powerful, especially considering LotR power levels
However, they could be? I just feel like it will be geared for Commander, not Modern, so.... nothing at all that powerful, especially considering LotR power levels
They have specifically stated they want the cards to be playable to the greatest number of players (without tainting Standard), so expect to see cards viable in and designed for Modern (which almost certainly will be EDH playable). It is also worth noting there will be Commander decks sold as well, giving them both a place to add 60-card constricted cards (which incidentally are playable in EDH) and EDH specific cards.
Also... I'm a mtg player and images like that have NEVER been done on actual non-blank cards before. Its very novel.
The scale is novel, but panoramic images on actual cards are nothing new - original Kamigawa’s basic land cycles, for example, were each four-part panoramas. There have been a fairly large number of two-part panoramas as well.
However, they could be? I just feel like it will be geared for Commander, not Modern, so.... nothing at all that powerful, especially considering LotR power levels
They have specifically stated they want the cards to be playable to the greatest number of players (without tainting Standard), so expect to see cards viable in and designed for Modern (which almost certainly will be EDH playable). It is also worth noting there will be Commander decks sold as well, giving them both a place to add 60-card constricted cards (which incidentally are playable in EDH) and EDH specific cards.
Those are two different points, but fine. I'm just going based on what I heard one of the larger mtg youtubers say.
Also... I'm a mtg player and images like that have NEVER been done on actual non-blank cards before. Its very novel.
The scale is novel, but panoramic images on actual cards are nothing new - original Kamigawa’s basic land cycles, for example, were each four-part panoramas. There have been a fairly large number of two-part panoramas as well.
Oh forgot to mention, so you remember how Amazon’s entire marketing campaign seemed to be based around “we’re representing so many different cultures in this see aren’t we nice people we’re totally not evil slave drivers”?
They seem to have done a great job. We get Irish hobbits, Scottish dwarves, English elves (and Arondir). There’s just a minor problem, they’ve managed to make THE ENTIRE POPULATION OF IRELAND HATE THE SHOW.
Yeah, in one of the most insulting and racist portrayals of Ireland in cinematic history (and believe me, there’s been hundreds of those), you can really tell the Americans Amazons know what they’re doing. After the Irish Times (the national Irish newspaper/site) did a massive article ranting on Amazon, well, let’s just say it’s not looking good. Yup, making an ENTIRE F-ING COUNTRY hate your show is a great way to get a hit.
The Harfoots are so racist and insulting it’s a joke. It’s the part where they’re slathered in muck, twigs in their hair, and are depicted as simpletons. Which is standard for Hobbits, UNTIL YOU MAKE THEM IRISH. Then it becomes the most racist stereotype in history. Oh, and the Irish accents of the characters make Mel Gibson’s Scottish accent in Braveheart look amazing.
Sorry about the rant but my entire family is Irish, we’ve only been in Canada for a couple generations. So I take this very personally.
However, they could be? I just feel like it will be geared for Commander, not Modern, so.... nothing at all that powerful, especially considering LotR power levels
They have specifically stated they want the cards to be playable to the greatest number of players (without tainting Standard), so expect to see cards viable in and designed for Modern (which almost certainly will be EDH playable). It is also worth noting there will be Commander decks sold as well, giving them both a place to add 60-card constricted cards (which incidentally are playable in EDH) and EDH specific cards.
Those are two different points, but fine. I'm just going based on what I heard one of the larger mtg youtubers say.
Also... I'm a mtg player and images like that have NEVER been done on actual non-blank cards before. Its very novel.
The scale is novel, but panoramic images on actual cards are nothing new - original Kamigawa’s basic land cycles, for example, were each four-part panoramas. There have been a fairly large number of two-part panoramas as well.
Oh really?
I cannot speak to what YTers might say, but, Wizards’ statement on the subject was they wanted to choose Modern to ensure maximum playability of the set. I am guessing it will utilise the Modern lol Horizons formula of being a bit more liberal in diversity of abilities - not only does that mean we get new, potentially powerful cards with lesser-included abilities (fingers crossed for Banding! - though I know that is never going to happen!), it gives them the largest toolset to make appropriate characters.
I expect it will be analogous to Commander Legends: Baldur’s Gate - a side set that shares a lot of traits with Modern Horizons in design, but likely ends up failing to deliver in terms of general power (likely a few explosive, format defining cards).
Regarding panoramic cards, yep! It’s one of my favourite little artistic flourishes they put on cards. I would message you some images, but I am presently at work and mobile is not exactly conductive to sending pictures - but if you Google Magic the Gathering Panoramic Art (and ignore all the art for cards like Grixis Panorama) you can find some examples, such as Double Masters Karn and the Urza lands, the Fblthp Secret Lair which made a Where’s Waldo Image, and a few basic land examples. There’s more out there as well, but those are the easier to find with a single Google search.
However, they could be? I just feel like it will be geared for Commander, not Modern, so.... nothing at all that powerful, especially considering LotR power levels
They have specifically stated they want the cards to be playable to the greatest number of players (without tainting Standard), so expect to see cards viable in and designed for Modern (which almost certainly will be EDH playable). It is also worth noting there will be Commander decks sold as well, giving them both a place to add 60-card constricted cards (which incidentally are playable in EDH) and EDH specific cards.
Those are two different points, but fine. I'm just going based on what I heard one of the larger mtg youtubers say.
Also... I'm a mtg player and images like that have NEVER been done on actual non-blank cards before. Its very novel.
The scale is novel, but panoramic images on actual cards are nothing new - original Kamigawa’s basic land cycles, for example, were each four-part panoramas. There have been a fairly large number of two-part panoramas as well.
Oh really?
I cannot speak to what YTers might say, but, Wizards’ statement on the subject was they wanted to choose Modern to ensure maximum playability of the set. I am guessing it will utilise the Modern lol Horizons formula of being a bit more liberal in diversity of abilities - not only does that mean we get new, potentially powerful cards with lesser-included abilities (fingers crossed for Banding! - though I know that is never going to happen!), it gives them the largest toolset to make appropriate characters.
I expect it will be analogous to Commander Legends: Baldur’s Gate - a side set that shares a lot of traits with Modern Horizons in design, but likely ends up failing to deliver in terms of general power (likely a few explosive, format defining cards).
Regarding panoramic cards, yep! It’s one of my favourite little artistic flourishes they put on cards. I would message you some images, but I am presently at work and mobile is not exactly conductive to sending pictures - but if you Google Magic the Gathering Panoramic Art (and ignore all the art for cards like Grixis Panorama) you can find some examples, such as Double Masters Karn and the Urza lands, the Fblthp Secret Lair which made a Where’s Waldo Image, and a few basic land examples. There’s more out there as well, but those are the easier to find with a single Google search.
Ah, but think of how great Banding would be for a “draw swords together” moment! Or for bringing the Fellowship together! So many great flavour opportunities.
I actually do have a number of thoughts on why Banding would be good for the game overall, but I will not subject the non-Magic players to those when there is no realistic chance we will see the mechanic return in the LotR set.
Ah, but think of how great Banding would be for a “draw swords together” moment! Or for bringing the Fellowship together! So many great flavour opportunities.
I actually do have a number of thoughts on why Banding would be good for the game overall, but I will not subject the non-Magic players to those when there is no realistic chance we will see the mechanic return in the LotR set.
If only to stop the notification spam, I’ll take the loss and propose an actual topic of conversation.
What is your favourite quote from the novels? And, since this thread often has an issue with conversations dying because folks simply respond “I agree with the above” - if someone else has stolen your favourite quote, acknowledge that and then post your second (or third, or… etc.)
If only to stop the notification spam, I’ll take the loss and propose an actual topic of conversation.
What is your favourite quote from the novels? And, since this thread often has an issue with conversations dying because folks simply respond “I agree with the above” - if someone else has stolen your favourite quote, acknowledge that and then post your second (or third, or… etc.)
I agree, espcially with the second to last paraghraph
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I can agree with all of this, tho I still think Arondir effectively taking over what should be Galadriel’s plot so she can be where the real stuff’s going down (Numenor) is dumb.
Also that I did forget to mention, the dwarves were perfect. Loud rude immature bearded Scotsman with the worst manners you could possibly imagine.
Oh yeah and the fake Tolkien dialogue is still so cringe and awful they need to improve that. “Do you know why a ship floats while a rock sinks? It’s cause the rock looks down and only sees the darkness, while the ship looks up and sees the light that guides us.” Galadriel: “But sometimes the light is reflected in the water and you can’t tell which one is real anymore”
AAAAAAAAAAAA 🤬🤬😤😤 what complete, pure, bullshit. I died just watching it. I have never heard so much gibberish and complete nonsensical bullshit ever. Even if the show gets good, I will never forget that line. It’s gonna haunt my nightmares for months now isn’t it.
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Also @Caerwyn, if you can tolerate the lore changes of RoP, you’re not allowed to complain about the Hobbit anymore lol. RoP makes the Hobbit lore changes look positively non-existent by comparison.
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As was clearly stated, I will be forgiving of lore changes if they are competently executed--the Hobbit was decidedly not, the entire film feeling like the studio forced the production into three films (the pacing suffering as a result) and an overreliance on CGI instead of practical effects which forced shoehorning in of unnecessary CGI heavy scenes. Take, for example, the Battle of the Five Armies--the way it was handled in the book would not have worked for film, and there was always going to be a battle scene (despite Bilbo falling unconscious). It did not have to be a CGI slug fest with Dune's Sandworms, poorly rendered Orlando Bloom CGI, and some of the worst fight choreography this side of The Last Jedi (or, I suppose, the orc fight in RoP, which... yikes!).
The LotR films likewise have plenty of lore changes--but most fans of the franchise let those slide because they were well-written and felt like an organic element of the films' story. They also did not feel shoehorned in for any reason other than "we need these to make a film" (as compared to "we need these to make money" from the Hobbit.) Time will only tell if the writers of RoP are more Hobbit or more LotR. But, even in this, I see hope. Right now, though I think the writing is a bit on the novice side of things, at least there does not seem to be the heavy hand of Amazon on the show itself--a show can always recover as writers move past the difficult introduction and develop their skills; they cannot always survive producer meddling.
About a week ago we got some new looks at the art for the LotR MTG set.
Magic fans are familiar with panoramic cards--cards that, when put together, form a larger image. The LotR set will have the biggest panoramic yet--eighteen cards forming an image from the Battle of Pelennor Fields:
This also provides our first look at Aragorn in the set:
Certainly will be interesting to see what they do with the development. I am glad it will be at a Modern Horizons power level--that allows them to branch out a little more than a Standard set would permit.
Oh forgot to mention, so you remember how Amazon’s entire marketing campaign seemed to be based around “we’re representing so many different cultures in this see aren’t we nice people we’re totally not evil slave drivers”?
They seem to have done a great job. We get Irish hobbits, Scottish dwarves, English elves (and Arondir). There’s just a minor problem, they’ve managed to make THE ENTIRE POPULATION OF IRELAND HATE THE SHOW.
Yeah, in one of the most insulting and racist portrayals of Ireland in cinematic history (and believe me, there’s been hundreds of those), you can really tell the Americans Amazons know what they’re doing. After the Irish Times (the national Irish newspaper/site) did a massive article ranting on Amazon, well, let’s just say it’s not looking good. Yup, making an ENTIRE F-ING COUNTRY hate your show is a great way to get a hit.
The Harfoots are so racist and insulting it’s a joke. It’s the part where they’re slathered in muck, twigs in their hair, and are depicted as simpletons. Which is standard for Hobbits, UNTIL YOU MAKE THEM IRISH. Then it becomes the most racist stereotype in history. Oh, and the Irish accents of the characters make Mel Gibson’s Scottish accent in Braveheart look amazing.
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Its not modern horizons power level, its only skipping Standard and going straight to modern. They're different.
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However, they could be? I just feel like it will be geared for Commander, not Modern, so.... nothing at all that powerful, especially considering LotR power levels
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Also... I'm a mtg player and images like that have NEVER been done on actual non-blank cards before. Its very novel.
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They have specifically stated they want the cards to be playable to the greatest number of players (without tainting Standard), so expect to see cards viable in and designed for Modern (which almost certainly will be EDH playable). It is also worth noting there will be Commander decks sold as well, giving them both a place to add 60-card constricted cards (which incidentally are playable in EDH) and EDH specific cards.
The scale is novel, but panoramic images on actual cards are nothing new - original Kamigawa’s basic land cycles, for example, were each four-part panoramas. There have been a fairly large number of two-part panoramas as well.
Those are two different points, but fine. I'm just going based on what I heard one of the larger mtg youtubers say.
Oh really?
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Sorry about the rant but my entire family is Irish, we’ve only been in Canada for a couple generations. So I take this very personally.
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I cannot speak to what YTers might say, but, Wizards’ statement on the subject was they wanted to choose Modern to ensure maximum playability of the set. I am guessing it will utilise the Modern lol Horizons formula of being a bit more liberal in diversity of abilities - not only does that mean we get new, potentially powerful cards with lesser-included abilities (fingers crossed for Banding! - though I know that is never going to happen!), it gives them the largest toolset to make appropriate characters.
I expect it will be analogous to Commander Legends: Baldur’s Gate - a side set that shares a lot of traits with Modern Horizons in design, but likely ends up failing to deliver in terms of general power (likely a few explosive, format defining cards).
Regarding panoramic cards, yep! It’s one of my favourite little artistic flourishes they put on cards. I would message you some images, but I am presently at work and mobile is not exactly conductive to sending pictures - but if you Google Magic the Gathering Panoramic Art (and ignore all the art for cards like Grixis Panorama) you can find some examples, such as Double Masters Karn and the Urza lands, the Fblthp Secret Lair which made a Where’s Waldo Image, and a few basic land examples. There’s more out there as well, but those are the easier to find with a single Google search.
NO NOT BANDING NO NO NO
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Ah, but think of how great Banding would be for a “draw swords together” moment! Or for bringing the Fellowship together! So many great flavour opportunities.
I actually do have a number of thoughts on why Banding would be good for the game overall, but I will not subject the non-Magic players to those when there is no realistic chance we will see the mechanic return in the LotR set.
Enlist. Anything. But not banding.
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Merry and Pippin need "Partner With" though.
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If only to stop the notification spam, I’ll take the loss and propose an actual topic of conversation.
What is your favourite quote from the novels? And, since this thread often has an issue with conversations dying because folks simply respond “I agree with the above” - if someone else has stolen your favourite quote, acknowledge that and then post your second (or third, or… etc.)
Specifically from the novels? Cause I love the quote
”You do the running, I’ll do the stinging.” From the original animated hobbit which is by far the best adaption of the hobbit
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