This website is not owned by the same company that publishes D&D. This website is more like an online bookstore that only sells digital D&D books. And they made all of these additional tools like the character builder for us to use for free with the materials we purchase. They are a bookstore, how do you expect them to make any money if the don’t sell books?!?
Exactly like Steam. Valve does not produce most of the games sold on Steam and it is an online gameshop that you can use with games bought from retail as well. They let you add your games to your library and Steam is the biggest online store for this purpose.
As ive noted, it might not be possible to create a valid proof mechanism in the first place, but idea is totally worthwhile, again, just like Steam.
As stated before, you can do this. you can enter any and all information in any book you already own into the homebrew system and use it in your games for free. Steam allows you to put a link for your game into the library to use, but this is digital to digital and it's only a link that you could click elsewhere to start your game. You can't take a physical copy of the game, and upload that to your steam account. It is already installed and steam is just activating it for you. You can't get automatic updates through steam either, but you do with the books you buy on DDB. Any Errata sent down from WotC gets updated in your books automatically.
The point of it all though, is that DDB can't give you the ability to use physical books you already own with the character creator without buying the digital version or homebrewing everything yourself. There is no proof mechanism you can use here, the physical book was not sold to you by DDB and as such, the digital version is not accessible to you unless you buy it from this site.
This website is not owned by the same company that publishes D&D. This website is more like an online bookstore that only sells digital D&D books. And they made all of these additional tools like the character builder for us to use for free with the materials we purchase. They are a bookstore, how do you expect them to make any money if the don’t sell books?!?
Exactly like Steam. Valve does not produce most of the games sold on Steam and it is an online gameshop that you can use with games bought from retail as well. They let you add your games to your library and Steam is the biggest online store for this purpose.
As ive noted, it might not be possible to create a valid proof mechanism in the first place, but idea is totally worthwhile, again, just like Steam.
Well then every other online retailer with a licensing agreement with WotC would also have to include a digital copy for use on their service as well. So at least three different companies would have to give you a free digital copy. That’s four copies of the book for the price of one.
This website is not owned by the same company that publishes D&D. This website is more like an online bookstore that only sells digital D&D books. And they made all of these additional tools like the character builder for us to use for free with the materials we purchase. They are a bookstore, how do you expect them to make any money if the don’t sell books?!?
Exactly like Steam. Valve does not produce most of the games sold on Steam and it is an online gameshop that you can use with games bought from retail as well. They let you add your games to your library and Steam is the biggest online store for this purpose.
As ive noted, it might not be possible to create a valid proof mechanism in the first place, but idea is totally worthwhile, again, just like Steam.
As stated before, you can do this. you can enter any and all information in any book you already own into the homebrew system and use it in your games for free. Steam allows you to put a link for your game into the library to use, but this is digital to digital and it's only a link that you could click elsewhere to start your game. You can't take a physical copy of the game, and upload that to your steam account. It is already installed and steam is just activating it for you. You can't get automatic updates through steam either, but you do with the books you buy on DDB. Any Errata sent down from WotC gets updated in your books automatically.
The point of it all though, is that DDB can't give you the ability to use physical books you already own with the character creator without buying the digital version or homebrewing everything yourself. There is no proof mechanism you can use here, the physical book was not sold to you by DDB and as such, the digital version is not accessible to you unless you buy it from this site.
This is incorrect. There is an "Activate a Product on Steam" option in same menu, which you can enter the CD-KEY you acquired from Retail version of a game to Steam, and voila , it becomes a steam game. The menu you show is just "Add a Non-Steam game", in other words, what you demonstrate is like trying to add a "Non-DnD" game to Beyond in our analogy, which you may do with Homebrew as previously discussed. This ofcourse requires coordination between Beyond and WotC, but i'm sure they have a similar connection for licensing copies of digital products and calculation for royalties to WoTC.
I do not know how to do the integration & proofing, so i will not try to hypothesise a way, however, i will also not assume that this cannot be done. What i do not understand is this pushback on the matter, it seems un-usual for a customer base to not entertain such an idea imho.
I believe you might even be the vocal minority on this matter. If you can be the Steam of something, as a rule of thumb, you should. :D
This website is not owned by the same company that publishes D&D. This website is more like an online bookstore that only sells digital D&D books. And they made all of these additional tools like the character builder for us to use for free with the materials we purchase. They are a bookstore, how do you expect them to make any money if the don’t sell books?!?
Exactly like Steam. Valve does not produce most of the games sold on Steam and it is an online gameshop that you can use with games bought from retail as well. They let you add your games to your library and Steam is the biggest online store for this purpose.
As ive noted, it might not be possible to create a valid proof mechanism in the first place, but idea is totally worthwhile, again, just like Steam.
Well then every other online retailer with a licensing agreement with WotC would also have to include a digital copy for use on their service as well. So at least three different companies would have to give you a free digital copy. That’s four copies of the book for the price of one.
Ridiculous.
I agree to disagree then :) it is only very logical to do this with say, a single platform per retail copy, since you already have a hardback, you can cash it with a preferred system. All retailers can work with a CD-KEY like system which identifies a single copy, however, i do not think they have such a thing currently. It could've be great if they did tho.
Edit : Now to think of it, it would be very well doable if WoTC added a Beyond Key to their hardcovers instead of the other way around. Case closed.
This is incorrect. There is an "Activate a Product on Steam" option in same menu, which you can enter the CD-KEY you acquired from Retail version of a game to Steam, and voila , it becomes a steam game. The menu you show is just "Add a Non-Steam game", in other words, what you demonstrate is like trying to add a "Non-DnD" game to Beyond in our analogy, which you may do with Homebrew as previously discussed. This ofcourse requires coordination between Beyond and WotC, but i'm sure they have a similar connection for licensing copies of digital products and calculation for royalties to WoTC.
I do not know how to do the integration & proofing, so i will not try to hypothesise a way, however, i will also not assume that this cannot be done. What i do not understand is this pushback on the matter, it seems un-usual for a customer base to not entertain such an idea imho.
I believe you might even be the vocal minority on this matter. If you can be the Steam of something, as a rule of thumb, you should. :D
What you are pointing out is buying a steam retail cd-key and then activating it on steam, Which is not the same thing. That cd-key is meant to specifically buy a game on steam and steam was involved in some way to allow that to happen and they get paid for it.
DDB has no interaction with physical books that WotC sells and they do not get a cut of those profits. WotC does get a cut of what DDB sells though, as they are "Steam" in this situation. They have allowed DDB to sell their products digitally under license and as such, they cannot do the things you are referring to.
The reason that people push back on this being brought up, is that DDB is not responsible for your purchases from WotC, except when you buy from them. You are asking them to allow you access to use your physical books to attain rights to the digital ones where the toolset is concerned, and they can't do that. They have to sell the books to you first before they can license you to use them with their toolset.
People argue all the time about buying movies and getting the digital version for free and that sort of thing, and in all those cases, you are getting that digital version from either the same people you bought the physical copy from, or they are in cooperation with some other company they pay for it. Therefore, yes, you can bring it up and suggest it and recommend it all you want, but you are talking to the wrong people. WotC is the company that would be the one to give you the digital keys for DDB, not the other way around.
This is incorrect. There is an "Activate a Product on Steam" option in same menu, which you can enter the CD-KEY you acquired from Retail version of a game to Steam, and voila , it becomes a steam game. The menu you show is just "Add a Non-Steam game", in other words, what you demonstrate is like trying to add a "Non-DnD" game to Beyond in our analogy, which you may do with Homebrew as previously discussed. This ofcourse requires coordination between Beyond and WotC, but i'm sure they have a similar connection for licensing copies of digital products and calculation for royalties to WoTC.
I do not know how to do the integration & proofing, so i will not try to hypothesise a way, however, i will also not assume that this cannot be done. What i do not understand is this pushback on the matter, it seems un-usual for a customer base to not entertain such an idea imho.
I believe you might even be the vocal minority on this matter. If you can be the Steam of something, as a rule of thumb, you should. :D
What you are pointing out is buying a steam retail cd-key and then activating it on steam, Which is not the same thing. That cd-key is meant to specifically buy a game on steam and steam was involved in some way to allow that to happen and they get paid for it.
DDB has no interaction with physical books that WotC sells and they do not get a cut of those profits. WotC does get a cut of what DDB sells though, as they are "Steam" in this situation. They have allowed DDB to sell their products digitally under license and as such, they cannot do the things you are referring to.
The reason that people push back on this being brought up, is that DDB is not responsible for your purchases from WotC, except when you buy from them. You are asking them to allow you access to use your physical books to attain rights to the digital ones where the toolset is concerned, and they can't do that. They have to sell the books to you first before they can license you to use them with their toolset.
People argue all the time about buying movies and getting the digital version for free and that sort of thing, and in all those cases, you are getting that digital version from either the same people you bought the physical copy from, or they are in cooperation with some other company they pay for it. Therefore, yes, you can bring it up and suggest it and recommend it all you want, but you are talking to the wrong people. WotC is the company that would be the one to give you the digital keys for DDB, not the other way around.
Quite true, i have come to the same conclusion meself on WotC including DBB access in their merc is the natural solution. However, it could've been great for Beyond to have such a connection, as it would naturally net many potential customers to them, especially considering the countries which you can't find the retail version of most campaign books, like mine.
Edit : Now to think of it, it would be very well doable if WoTC added a Beyond Key to their hardcovers instead of the other way around. Case closed.
That cannot work because WotC refuses to shrink wrap their products. People would just go into stores and copy the codes to get free books. Or buy the book, use the code, return the book, and then the next purchaser is ould be screwed out of their free digital copy. No bueno.
Quite true, i have come to the same conclusion meself on WotC including DBB access in their merc is the natural solution. However, it could've been great for Beyond to have such a connection, as it would naturally net many potential customers to them, especially considering the countries which you can't find the retail version of most campaign books, like mine.
Why would the books publisher include a code to get free stuff from a bookstore run by an entirely different company?!?
That would be like CD Projekt including a code for free stuff from Amazon if you buy one of their games from Game Stop.
I'm just shocked this is still an issue people continue to argue about. I just would say to people that still argue this: Should you demand a digital download on your digital only Xbox after you've purchased the physical copy for your PS4? If you can give a logical reason why that would EVER be a yes, I'll consider your argument why DDB should give away their digital product to the physical book publishing company's customer.
REMEMBER: Wizards Of The Coast does not own DDB, they are two different companies. When you buy a physical book, WotC receives the money you bought it for, not DDB and vice versa. If you want a digital key to get an online book for free because you have the hardcopy book then DDB makes no money because you don't buy off DDB you buy off WotC, so please stop making threads about this issue. DDB needs money to continue helping people and servers aren't cheap.
I'm just shocked this is still an issue people continue to argue about. I just would say to people that still argue this: Should you demand a digital download on your digital only Xbox after you've purchased the physical copy for your PS4? If you can give a logical reason why that would EVER be a yes, I'll consider your argument why DDB should give away their digital product to the physical book publishing company's customer.
See my signature (2nd Time) "So, please stop making threads about this issue"
I'm just shocked this is still an issue people continue to argue about. I just would say to people that still argue this: Should you demand a digital download on your digital only Xbox after you've purchased the physical copy for your PS4? If you can give a logical reason why that would EVER be a yes, I'll consider your argument why DDB should give away their digital product to the physical book publishing company's customer.
See my signature (2nd Time) "So, please stop making threads about this issue"
They were agreeing with you.
I was agreeing with Mairondil, I was just making the point that people keep making threads about this issue and that I agree with him or her, why are people still arguing about this problem it should've stopped a while ago. Sorry, I should've been more clear. I'll edit it.
REMEMBER: Wizards Of The Coast does not own DDB, they are two different companies. When you buy a physical book, WotC receives the money you bought it for, not DDB and vice versa. If you want a digital key to get an online book for free because you have the hardcopy book then DDB makes no money because you don't buy off DDB you buy off WotC, so please stop making threads about this issue. DDB needs money to continue helping people and servers aren't cheap.
They won’t stop. This is at least the dozenth thread like this I have seen since I joined. It never stops. People just do not understand that this website is a bookstore. That’s their business, to sell (lease 🙄) books.
They won’t stop. This is at least the dozenth thread like this I have seen since I joined. It never stops. People just do not understand that this website is a bookstore. That’s their business, to sell (lease 🙄) books.
Maybe pinning a thread about why this thing can't happen could reduce the number of threads made about this problem.
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REMEMBER: Wizards Of The Coast does not own DDB, they are two different companies. When you buy a physical book, WotC receives the money you bought it for, not DDB and vice versa. If you want a digital key to get an online book for free because you have the hardcopy book then DDB makes no money because you don't buy off DDB you buy off WotC, so please stop making threads about this issue. DDB needs money to continue helping people and servers aren't cheap.
They won’t stop. This is at least the dozenth thread like this I have seen since I joined. It never stops. People just do not understand that this website is a bookstore. That’s their business, to sell (lease 🙄) books.
Maybe pinning a thread about why this thing can't happen could reduce the number of threads made about this problem.
I doubt it. There’s a thread pinned about ERftLW. The very first post clearly states the Spells of the Mark are nonfunctional yet. It has 65 pages of people wondering why their Spells of the Mark don’t work, and the Bugs & Support, General Discussion, and DDB Feedback forums are inundated weekly with posts about that too.
There is a pinned thread for the most recent UA Articles as well. Just today alone I had to tell two users who “couldn’t find any threads” about them wondering about things clearly mentioned in the very first posts in those threads. 🤦♂️
I call that the Google Effect. Where you look at a list of options, you skip over the first one or few, assuming it's an ad. The best things to look at are always top 5 or top 10 though. But that first link is always "Meh, what else is there?" barely giving it a glance
I call that the Google Effect. Where you look at a list of options, you skip over the first one or few, assuming it's an ad. The best things to look at are always top 5 or top 10 though. But that first link is always "Meh, what else is there?" barely giving it a glance
I call it the “too lazy to look for myself, just gonna ask” effect.
As stated before, you can do this. you can enter any and all information in any book you already own into the homebrew system and use it in your games for free. Steam allows you to put a link for your game into the library to use, but this is digital to digital and it's only a link that you could click elsewhere to start your game. You can't take a physical copy of the game, and upload that to your steam account. It is already installed and steam is just activating it for you. You can't get automatic updates through steam either, but you do with the books you buy on DDB. Any Errata sent down from WotC gets updated in your books automatically.
The point of it all though, is that DDB can't give you the ability to use physical books you already own with the character creator without buying the digital version or homebrewing everything yourself. There is no proof mechanism you can use here, the physical book was not sold to you by DDB and as such, the digital version is not accessible to you unless you buy it from this site.
Well then every other online retailer with a licensing agreement with WotC would also have to include a digital copy for use on their service as well. So at least three different companies would have to give you a free digital copy. That’s four copies of the book for the price of one.
Ridiculous.
Creating Epic Boons on DDB
DDB Buyers' Guide
Hardcovers, DDB & You
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This is incorrect. There is an "Activate a Product on Steam" option in same menu, which you can enter the CD-KEY you acquired from Retail version of a game to Steam, and voila , it becomes a steam game. The menu you show is just "Add a Non-Steam game", in other words, what you demonstrate is like trying to add a "Non-DnD" game to Beyond in our analogy, which you may do with Homebrew as previously discussed. This ofcourse requires coordination between Beyond and WotC, but i'm sure they have a similar connection for licensing copies of digital products and calculation for royalties to WoTC.
I do not know how to do the integration & proofing, so i will not try to hypothesise a way, however, i will also not assume that this cannot be done. What i do not understand is this pushback on the matter, it seems un-usual for a customer base to not entertain such an idea imho.
I believe you might even be the vocal minority on this matter. If you can be the Steam of something, as a rule of thumb, you should. :D
I agree to disagree then :) it is only very logical to do this with say, a single platform per retail copy, since you already have a hardback, you can cash it with a preferred system. All retailers can work with a CD-KEY like system which identifies a single copy, however, i do not think they have such a thing currently. It could've be great if they did tho.
Edit : Now to think of it, it would be very well doable if WoTC added a Beyond Key to their hardcovers instead of the other way around. Case closed.
What you are pointing out is buying a steam retail cd-key and then activating it on steam, Which is not the same thing. That cd-key is meant to specifically buy a game on steam and steam was involved in some way to allow that to happen and they get paid for it.
DDB has no interaction with physical books that WotC sells and they do not get a cut of those profits. WotC does get a cut of what DDB sells though, as they are "Steam" in this situation. They have allowed DDB to sell their products digitally under license and as such, they cannot do the things you are referring to.
The reason that people push back on this being brought up, is that DDB is not responsible for your purchases from WotC, except when you buy from them. You are asking them to allow you access to use your physical books to attain rights to the digital ones where the toolset is concerned, and they can't do that. They have to sell the books to you first before they can license you to use them with their toolset.
People argue all the time about buying movies and getting the digital version for free and that sort of thing, and in all those cases, you are getting that digital version from either the same people you bought the physical copy from, or they are in cooperation with some other company they pay for it. Therefore, yes, you can bring it up and suggest it and recommend it all you want, but you are talking to the wrong people. WotC is the company that would be the one to give you the digital keys for DDB, not the other way around.
Quite true, i have come to the same conclusion meself on WotC including DBB access in their merc is the natural solution. However, it could've been great for Beyond to have such a connection, as it would naturally net many potential customers to them, especially considering the countries which you can't find the retail version of most campaign books, like mine.
That cannot work because WotC refuses to shrink wrap their products. People would just go into stores and copy the codes to get free books. Or buy the book, use the code, return the book, and then the next purchaser is ould be screwed out of their free digital copy. No bueno.
Creating Epic Boons on DDB
DDB Buyers' Guide
Hardcovers, DDB & You
Content Troubleshooting
Why would the books publisher include a code to get free stuff from a bookstore run by an entirely different company?!?
That would be like CD Projekt including a code for free stuff from Amazon if you buy one of their games from Game Stop.
Creating Epic Boons on DDB
DDB Buyers' Guide
Hardcovers, DDB & You
Content Troubleshooting
That would be illegal...
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And when has that ever been enough to stop people from stealing?
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I'm just shocked this is still an issue people continue to argue about. I just would say to people that still argue this: Should you demand a digital download on your digital only Xbox after you've purchased the physical copy for your PS4? If you can give a logical reason why that would EVER be a yes, I'll consider your argument why DDB should give away their digital product to the physical book publishing company's customer.
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You're Right. Everybody should've stopped arguing about this problem a while ago.
REMEMBER: Wizards Of The Coast does not own DDB, they are two different companies. When you buy a physical book, WotC receives the money you bought it for, not DDB and vice versa. If you want a digital key to get an online book for free because you have the hardcopy book then DDB makes no money because you don't buy off DDB you buy off WotC, so please stop making threads about this issue. DDB needs money to continue helping people and servers aren't cheap.
They were agreeing with you.
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I was agreeing with Mairondil, I was just making the point that people keep making threads about this issue and that I agree with him or her, why are people still arguing about this problem it should've stopped a while ago. Sorry, I should've been more clear. I'll edit it.
REMEMBER: Wizards Of The Coast does not own DDB, they are two different companies. When you buy a physical book, WotC receives the money you bought it for, not DDB and vice versa. If you want a digital key to get an online book for free because you have the hardcopy book then DDB makes no money because you don't buy off DDB you buy off WotC, so please stop making threads about this issue. DDB needs money to continue helping people and servers aren't cheap.
They won’t stop. This is at least the dozenth thread like this I have seen since I joined. It never stops. People just do not understand that this website is a bookstore. That’s their business, to sell (lease 🙄) books.
Creating Epic Boons on DDB
DDB Buyers' Guide
Hardcovers, DDB & You
Content Troubleshooting
Maybe pinning a thread about why this thing can't happen could reduce the number of threads made about this problem.
REMEMBER: Wizards Of The Coast does not own DDB, they are two different companies. When you buy a physical book, WotC receives the money you bought it for, not DDB and vice versa. If you want a digital key to get an online book for free because you have the hardcopy book then DDB makes no money because you don't buy off DDB you buy off WotC, so please stop making threads about this issue. DDB needs money to continue helping people and servers aren't cheap.
There's not one already?
Perhaps our banter about how silly this question is will keep a thread prominent enough to head off many more question.
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I doubt it. There’s a thread pinned about ERftLW. The very first post clearly states the Spells of the Mark are nonfunctional yet. It has 65 pages of people wondering why their Spells of the Mark don’t work, and the Bugs & Support, General Discussion, and DDB Feedback forums are inundated weekly with posts about that too.
There is a pinned thread for the most recent UA Articles as well. Just today alone I had to tell two users who “couldn’t find any threads” about them wondering about things clearly mentioned in the very first posts in those threads. 🤦♂️
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Hardcovers, DDB & You
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I doubt it. See my last post.
Creating Epic Boons on DDB
DDB Buyers' Guide
Hardcovers, DDB & You
Content Troubleshooting
I call that the Google Effect. Where you look at a list of options, you skip over the first one or few, assuming it's an ad. The best things to look at are always top 5 or top 10 though. But that first link is always "Meh, what else is there?" barely giving it a glance
How to: Replace DEX in AC | Jump & Suffocation stats | Spell & class effect buff system | Wild Shape effect system | Tool Proficiencies as Custom Skills | Spells at higher levels explained | Superior Fighting/Martial Adept Fix | Snippet Codes Explored - Subclasses | Snippet Math Theory | Homebrew Weapons Explained
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Dndbeyond images not loading WORKAROUND FIXED!!! (TY Jay_Lane for original instructions)
I call it the “too lazy to look for myself, just gonna ask” effect.
Creating Epic Boons on DDB
DDB Buyers' Guide
Hardcovers, DDB & You
Content Troubleshooting