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Your actually making my point for me while missing it - yes a monk can do D8 damage even at first level IF THEY ARE WIELDING A WEAPON JUST LIKE A FIGHTER but their open hand damage is a D4 ( and later a D6 and eventually a D8 yes). They get a bonus attack for another D4  but each “hit” is a D4. Then along comes the unarmed fighting style granting the fighter a D6 ( or D8) on an unarmed attack doing better damage UNARMED than the monk that is the specialist in unarmed fighting. The tavern brawler feat changes the standard 1 + strength bonus for an unarmed attack to a  D4. 
now I get ( sort of) that they were looking at the D8 damage for the style as a replacement for the weapon attack but you could always do an an unarmed attack as a bonus action ( why you would want to at 1+SB I don’t know but …)  so now the unarmed fighter does 1D8+SB for his main attack, so does the monk but then the monk ( the “expert” in unarmed fighting does D4 while the fighter still does D8. Yes you can flurry and get 2 attacks with the bonus action but you’ve used one of your limited Ki points to get ( maybe) 2D4 to match the average damage the fighter gets without cost. I grant that the unarmed combat is not the only ( and perhaps even most important) monk feature but their unarmed damage really should be the cap that others try to attain and no other class/subclass should exceed. Ah well enough of my rant.

Lets assume that they both have a +3 modifier.  The Fighter deals 1d8+3 because they get 1 attack.  The Monk deals 2d4+6 because they start with 2 attacks. The Monk doesn't need to spend ki points for the 1 bonus action attack.  They get that for free every round.  

While the Fighter is in there swinging like Tyson, the Monk is jabbing like Lee.

If your not allowing the bonus action then ok it works.

The strength of the monk has always been in it's number of attacks, not the damage die. Monk has never been a class specialized in not using a weapon, especially at low level. And that is why the fighting style that does specialize is such a small buff. It is great for a few levels if you can get it for free.

So best use is really a variant human fighter 1/monk 1+x get the HP and hosted damage at the start then go into monk for the rest.

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So best use is really a variant human fighter 1/monk 1+x get the HP and hosted damage at the start then go into monk for the rest.

 With Variant Human you don't really need the dip in Fighter at all.

Edit: I honestly prefer Barbarian for rage grappling, but the topic is about Monks 

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If your not allowing the bonus action then ok it works.

 We're not allowing it because it's not allowed. TWF rules do not work with unarmed attacks, period. Allowing an unarmed Fighter to make an unarmed strike as a bonus action would be a houserule.

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If your not allowing the bonus action then ok it works.

 
You mean if we follow the rules?

I used to think the way Wi1dBi11 did but I couple things have changed my mind. 

In boxing there are weight classes for a reason. The big heavy weight boxers hit harder as they have more mass behind the punch. The lighter boxers hit hard but not as hard just as a matter of physics. 

A monk is not 1980’s Schwarzenegger big with the quickness and speed of Bruce Lee.  So the Fighter using STR will hit harder. The DEX mink will hit not as hard but quicker. 

And wait until that fighter specializing in unarmed comes up against something with resistance to non magical damage. The monk at level 6 bypasses it, the fighter doesn’t 

Yes Sposta if you follow RAW I have seen a lot of games that don’t. One of the commoner things I’ve seen is letting folks have that unarmed bonus attack. 

Some comments in response to TKW - martial arts competitions also have weight classes because indeed a heavyweight vs a light weight of similar skill the heavyweight wins. And your right the mass is the reason since the speeds are essentially the same (and pretty much the same as the boxer’s speed.) my complaint was that instead of having the same damage punch for punch the boxer(unarmed fighting style) was doing more damage than the martial artist of matching skill/stats.  I still feel that way but I will acknowledge that in terms of overall game mechanics it works as RAW. While Bruce Lee was incredibly quick he was also quite strong. Part of the martial artists training that most unarmed fighters don’t get is in knowing where and how to hit for maximum results. We see this in things like the bonebreaker moves and even in the board breaking everyone likes to make fun of. This is a second reason I don’t like unarmed style getting more damage consistently punch for punch (and yes before folks post to tell me it’s not just punches I’m well aware of the other weapons an unarmed combatant can make use of but lumping them all together under “punch” makes writing easier). 

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Yes Sposta if you follow RAW I have seen a lot of games that don’t. One of the commoner things I’ve seen is letting folks have that unarmed bonus attack. 

Some comments in response to TKW - martial arts competitions also have weight classes because indeed a heavyweight vs a light weight of similar skill the heavyweight wins. And your right the mass is the reason since the speeds are essentially the same (and pretty much the same as the boxer’s speed.) my complaint was that instead of having the same damage punch for punch the boxer(unarmed fighting style) was doing more damage than the martial artist of matching skill/stats.  I still feel that way but I will acknowledge that in terms of overall game mechanics it works as RAW. While Bruce Lee was incredibly quick he was also quite strong. Part of the martial artists training that most unarmed fighters don’t get is in knowing where and how to hit for maximum results. We see this in things like the bonebreaker moves and even in the board breaking everyone likes to make fun of. This is a second reason I don’t like unarmed style getting more damage consistently punch for punch (and yes before folks post to tell me it’s not just punches I’m well aware of the other weapons an unarmed combatant can make use of but lumping them all together under “punch” makes writing easier). 

 WotC shouldn't be held accountable for peoples house rules throwing things out of balance. Without the house rule, the Unarmed Fighting style works as it should.

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