When someone at a coffee shop makes a donut, do they make the hole too? Or is the hole just a by-product of the donut being made. Can you eat that hole? Do you have to pay extra for it?
You see how nonsensical most of that is. Same with this entrance that is only ever described as invisible. Maybe it seems fantastical to imagine something that is always invisible and has no other state of being, but that is how this entrance is described to us... as invisible. How can you see that with see invisible... see invisible can see things that weren't invisible and then became so, but this entrance only exists as invisible.
The only way to interact with the entrance is to climb up the rope and hide in the space, once the occupants did that and pulled up the rope you are left with an ivisble entrance that can't be attacked or allow spells through... until the hour is up.
I hope that emperor gets dressed and good luck shaving with razor, it can be quite sharp.
The hole in a donut is not an invisible extension of the donut, while the invisible opening to an extradimensional pocket is part of said pocket. And this opening has other states of being other than being invisible, like being a gate to an extradimensional space, that makes a tear in reality.
Your comparison to the hole in a donut is completely missing the point here.
When someone at a coffee shop makes a donut, do they make the hole too? Or is the hole just a by-product of the donut being made. Can you eat that hole? Do you have to pay extra for it?
"When someone at a coffee shop makes a donut, do they make the hole too?"
Technically, yes. The hole is made deliberately as part of the process of making it. It's a manual process much of the time, you don't even use molds - you make the circle and then remove the middle, smooth it, and continue it can hold the shape on its own, then you cook it.
"Or is the hole just a by-product of the donut being made. "
Part of the process, and a deliberate one. It's literally what makes a ringed doughnut a ringed doughnut.
"Can you eat that hole?"
You can eat the inner rims that make it, yes.
"Do you have to pay extra for it?"
This depends entirely on the shop selling it and by comparison of other types of doughnuts being sold. Typically a ringed doughnut is actually more cumbersome to make than non-ringed doughnuts, since forming the ring actually is a manual process and an extra step. Sometimes shops do charge more for the ringed one than non-ringed one for this reason. The exception are filled doughnuts where a filling of some kind (usually jam, custard or chocolate sauce) is injected into the doughnut, which are often more expensive than other non-filled doughnuts, ringed or not. But then there are many shops that might do deals, or adjust prices based on popularity from customers rather than the process of making them. So, it varies - but I have come across more places than sell ringed doughnuts at a slightly higher cost than the non-ringed ones.
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Ya, you kinda chose a poor example there.
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They made it that way so you can safely walk into the space created by Rope Trick or Magnificent Mansion with your Bag of Holding, but so that you couldn’t walk around with a Bag of Holding full of Bags of Holding.
The reason I'm not sure they are stacking is you are not getting anything extra... hiding in a rope trick within a rope trick... not the same as enlarge plus enlarge.
Maybe you are only affected by the latest casting of rope trick... so you're in the 2nd one and who cares about the 1st... or the 1st just ends.
Based on 1st edition D&D logic, if you cast Rope Trick inside a Rope Trick the extradimensional space implodes, causing massive damage to the people inside and, if they survive, dumping them in the deep ethereal. Of course, first edition D&D liked to just arbitrarily kill PCs.
The reason I'm not sure they are stacking is you are not getting anything extra... hiding in a rope trick within a rope trick... not the same as enlarge plus enlarge.
Maybe you are only affected by the latest casting of rope trick... so you're in the 2nd one and who cares about the 1st... or the 1st just ends.
Based on 1st edition D&D logic, if you cast Rope Trick inside a Rope Trick the extradimensional space implodes, causing massive damage to the people inside and, if they survive, dumping them in the deep ethereal. Of course, first edition D&D liked to just arbitrarily kill PCs.
The good old days of 1st... although I really like 5e.
Same as 2e. Ah the good ol’ days. When you didn’t get attached to a character until they were at least 3rd level, and the chances of hitting 5th with the same character were slim to none. Now I want to play 2e again. But then I remember THAC0, and realize why I don’t.
Does the rope need to be made of hemp or silk? Or can you use other material like bed-sheets or really long braided hair?
Anything the DM allows to be classified as "rope".
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The hole in a donut is not an invisible extension of the donut, while the invisible opening to an extradimensional pocket is part of said pocket. And this opening has other states of being other than being invisible, like being a gate to an extradimensional space, that makes a tear in reality.
Your comparison to the hole in a donut is completely missing the point here.
"When someone at a coffee shop makes a donut, do they make the hole too?"
Technically, yes. The hole is made deliberately as part of the process of making it. It's a manual process much of the time, you don't even use molds - you make the circle and then remove the middle, smooth it, and continue it can hold the shape on its own, then you cook it.
"Or is the hole just a by-product of the donut being made. "
Part of the process, and a deliberate one. It's literally what makes a ringed doughnut a ringed doughnut.
"Can you eat that hole?"
You can eat the inner rims that make it, yes.
"Do you have to pay extra for it?"
This depends entirely on the shop selling it and by comparison of other types of doughnuts being sold. Typically a ringed doughnut is actually more cumbersome to make than non-ringed doughnuts, since forming the ring actually is a manual process and an extra step. Sometimes shops do charge more for the ringed one than non-ringed one for this reason. The exception are filled doughnuts where a filling of some kind (usually jam, custard or chocolate sauce) is injected into the doughnut, which are often more expensive than other non-filled doughnuts, ringed or not. But then there are many shops that might do deals, or adjust prices based on popularity from customers rather than the process of making them. So, it varies - but I have come across more places than sell ringed doughnuts at a slightly higher cost than the non-ringed ones.
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Ya, you kinda chose a poor example there.
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Could you have a rope trick inside a rope trick?
They made it that way so you can safely walk into the space created by Rope Trick or Magnificent Mansion with your Bag of Holding, but so that you couldn’t walk around with a Bag of Holding full of Bags of Holding.
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Based on 1st edition D&D logic, if you cast Rope Trick inside a Rope Trick the extradimensional space implodes, causing massive damage to the people inside and, if they survive, dumping them in the deep ethereal. Of course, first edition D&D liked to just arbitrarily kill PCs.
Same as 2e. Ah the good ol’ days. When you didn’t get attached to a character until they were at least 3rd level, and the chances of hitting 5th with the same character were slim to none. Now I want to play 2e again. But then I remember THAC0, and realize why I don’t.
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Does the rope need to be made of hemp or silk? Or can you use other material like bed-sheets or really long braided hair?
Anything the DM allows to be classified as "rope".
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