Really wish people could try a search. 5 seconds to search found 9 other threads on this already. Do we really need a 10th?
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Given that fully 2/3rds of that list are threads that haven't had new comments in over a year, I think some grace can be lent to the situation and you could have instead pointed them in the direction of the most helpful one.
I am not a fan of the spell point system - I think it causes some balance issues and discouraged players (particularly at medium to high levels, when you have low-level spell slots to spare) from casting niche spells and utility spells. I would be disinclined to allow spell points at my table (though I probably could be convinced to allow a sorcerer to use them, as that class could benefit from some differentiation).
Still, as long as it is an official feature, I think it would be nice to include as an option. Even if it is not something I want to play with, having it as an option for those who would just makes sense. That said, if it is not supported/an optional mechanism in 5.5, then it probably does not need official support here.
It's definitely abusable and discourages spell variety - people gravitate towards spending all their points on 1-2 favorite spells. I think optional rules are the right place for them. As for DDB supporting it, they should support everything that is published in official material at the least. I'd prefer it be one of the toggle-able options at the start of the character sheet.
To be fair, at the time D&DB was created it was an independent setup, not a part of WotC, and I doubt all the other independent sites with sheets that can link to sources are set up for it either. Some, sure, but I’d be quite shocked to learn all of them are set up to accommodate all the extra/variant character sheet options. You could argue that WotC should have added it after the acquisition, but at the end of the day what projects they pursue have to be ones that will make a decent profit, and enabling a fairly obscure and niche variant rule on the character sheet probably won’t show much in returns. And if they’re planning to phase that out in the new DMG, that’s even less reason to implement it just for it to become nearly obsolete.
I don't think the question is "is the spell point system good?" It's should DDB include the spell point system as an option to be managed on DDB character sheets (presumably because it's in the DMG). It's not really a argument on the spell system's quality, it's about DDB's capacity to digitally present all options presented in DDB books (the options in the DM's Workshop chapter not reflected in the homebrew tools, so spell slots, SAN and Honor, proficiency die, etc).
I don't think an official character sheet giving space for spell points, or any of the DM's Workshop concepts outside things that come under standard player option decisions like race, class, feat, etc. That's probably (been) enough of an argument DDB can make to focus its priorities on other areas of WotC content that falls under "official D&D". It also makes one curious whether this sort of embargo of Workshop content may break to make for greater allowance of third party content.
Practically speaking though, I don't see any further development of the DMs Workshop Options here on DDB with the core refresh coming. If there's a similar DM's workshop in the refresh's DMG, maybe we'll see something. I'd even go so far to guess that allowing a spell point system into DDB content would be one of those things that may open the door for original character classes.
My guess is not enough people use spell points in their game for DDB to make it a priority, which is sort of a chicken and egg thing.
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I don't think the question is "is the spell point system good?" It's should DDB include the spell point system as an option to be managed on DDB character sheets (presumably because it's in the DMG). It's not really a argument on the spell system's quality, it's about DDB's capacity to digitally present all options presented in DDB books (the options in the DM's Workshop chapter not reflected in the homebrew tools, so spell slots, SAN and Honor, proficiency die, etc).
I don't think an official character sheet giving space for spell points, or any of the DM's Workshop concepts outside things that come under standard player option decisions like race, class, feat, etc. That's probably (been) enough of an argument DDB can make to focus its priorities on other areas of WotC content that falls under "official D&D". It also makes one curious whether this sort of embargo of Workshop content may break to make for greater allowance of third party content.
Practically speaking though, I don't see any further development of the DMs Workshop Options here on DDB with the core refresh coming. If there's a similar DM's workshop in the refresh's DMG, maybe we'll see something. I'd even go so far to guess that allowing a spell point system into DDB content would be one of those things that may open the door for original character classes.
My guess is not enough people use spell points in their game for DDB to make it a priority, which is sort of a chicken and egg thing.
i think the spell point system is pretty good and easier for newer people to follow because it acts exactly like mana from video games so its want alot of people are use too
I don't think the question is "is the spell point system good?" It's should DDB include the spell point system as an option to be managed on DDB character sheets (presumably because it's in the DMG). It's not really a argument on the spell system's quality, it's about DDB's capacity to digitally present all options presented in DDB books (the options in the DM's Workshop chapter not reflected in the homebrew tools, so spell slots, SAN and Honor, proficiency die, etc).
I don't think an official character sheet giving space for spell points, or any of the DM's Workshop concepts outside things that come under standard player option decisions like race, class, feat, etc. That's probably (been) enough of an argument DDB can make to focus its priorities on other areas of WotC content that falls under "official D&D". It also makes one curious whether this sort of embargo of Workshop content may break to make for greater allowance of third party content.
Practically speaking though, I don't see any further development of the DMs Workshop Options here on DDB with the core refresh coming. If there's a similar DM's workshop in the refresh's DMG, maybe we'll see something. I'd even go so far to guess that allowing a spell point system into DDB content would be one of those things that may open the door for original character classes.
My guess is not enough people use spell points in their game for DDB to make it a priority, which is sort of a chicken and egg thing.
i think the spell point system is pretty good and easier for newer people to follow because it acts exactly like mana from video games so its want alot of people are use too
Except there’s so many reasons it does not actually handle like a mana system, and ultimately creates the aforementioned issue of allowing casters to throw too many big punches once you get out of 1st tier
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I wish that DNDBeyond would make it possible to use this on their character sheets. I like spell points better than spell slots.
Really wish people could try a search. 5 seconds to search found 9 other threads on this already. Do we really need a 10th?
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Given that fully 2/3rds of that list are threads that haven't had new comments in over a year, I think some grace can be lent to the situation and you could have instead pointed them in the direction of the most helpful one.
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to get back on track i think it would be dope more options are great for players
I wrote a userscript a few years back that creates an interface for and automates spell point tracking on DnDBeyond. Should still be working.
https://github.com/Mwr247/DnDBeyondSpellPointsV2
I am not a fan of the spell point system - I think it causes some balance issues and discouraged players (particularly at medium to high levels, when you have low-level spell slots to spare) from casting niche spells and utility spells. I would be disinclined to allow spell points at my table (though I probably could be convinced to allow a sorcerer to use them, as that class could benefit from some differentiation).
Still, as long as it is an official feature, I think it would be nice to include as an option. Even if it is not something I want to play with, having it as an option for those who would just makes sense. That said, if it is not supported/an optional mechanism in 5.5, then it probably does not need official support here.
It's definitely abusable and discourages spell variety - people gravitate towards spending all their points on 1-2 favorite spells. I think optional rules are the right place for them. As for DDB supporting it, they should support everything that is published in official material at the least. I'd prefer it be one of the toggle-able options at the start of the character sheet.
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To be fair, at the time D&DB was created it was an independent setup, not a part of WotC, and I doubt all the other independent sites with sheets that can link to sources are set up for it either. Some, sure, but I’d be quite shocked to learn all of them are set up to accommodate all the extra/variant character sheet options. You could argue that WotC should have added it after the acquisition, but at the end of the day what projects they pursue have to be ones that will make a decent profit, and enabling a fairly obscure and niche variant rule on the character sheet probably won’t show much in returns. And if they’re planning to phase that out in the new DMG, that’s even less reason to implement it just for it to become nearly obsolete.
I don't think the question is "is the spell point system good?" It's should DDB include the spell point system as an option to be managed on DDB character sheets (presumably because it's in the DMG). It's not really a argument on the spell system's quality, it's about DDB's capacity to digitally present all options presented in DDB books (the options in the DM's Workshop chapter not reflected in the homebrew tools, so spell slots, SAN and Honor, proficiency die, etc).
I don't think an official character sheet giving space for spell points, or any of the DM's Workshop concepts outside things that come under standard player option decisions like race, class, feat, etc. That's probably (been) enough of an argument DDB can make to focus its priorities on other areas of WotC content that falls under "official D&D". It also makes one curious whether this sort of embargo of Workshop content may break to make for greater allowance of third party content.
Practically speaking though, I don't see any further development of the DMs Workshop Options here on DDB with the core refresh coming. If there's a similar DM's workshop in the refresh's DMG, maybe we'll see something. I'd even go so far to guess that allowing a spell point system into DDB content would be one of those things that may open the door for original character classes.
My guess is not enough people use spell points in their game for DDB to make it a priority, which is sort of a chicken and egg thing.
Jander Sunstar is the thinking person's Drizzt, fight me.
i think the spell point system is pretty good and easier for newer people to follow because it acts exactly like mana from video games so its want alot of people are use too
Except there’s so many reasons it does not actually handle like a mana system, and ultimately creates the aforementioned issue of allowing casters to throw too many big punches once you get out of 1st tier