The problem is that your desire is something that Curse literally can do nothing about, but you're bringing to Curse for discussion. I've been vocal about DDB not providing APIs to allow other tools to integrate with DDB so we don't need to spent $30 on every book for every tool that is out there. That's something in the realm that DDB could likely do, and those are the types of conversations to try and have: things under DDB's purview.
They have mentioned offering an API, however it probably won't allow you to take the content to another program completely, only integrate tools into Beyond. And that is very likely to be made clear in the WotC licensing agreement, so my guess is that it is up to WotC and that they won't allow that. But that is complete speculation (as is most of what everyone is saying here)
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Wizards of the Coast moat assuredly owns this site if you ask them. Twitch however runs it. The access to the DnD content that you get is from WotC. When you pay for the use of the subclasses, compendium content, or anything at all that it part of the DnD gaming system, that is going to WotC minus the normal commission that goes to all e-vendors. When you start a subscription, that is what goes to support and pay for the toolset.
Asking for claim codes to be included with books is not out of line or hurtful to the dndbeyond site, in fact it would be a blessing to it. But it would cost WotC the double dip they are currently getting from some dupes.
Wizards of the Coast moat assuredly owns this site if you ask them. Twitch however runs it. The access to the DnD content that you get is from WotC. When you pay for the use of the subclasses, compendium content, or anything at all that it part of the DnD gaming system, that is going to WotC minus the normal commission that goes to all e-vendors. When you start a subscription, that is what goes to support and pay for the toolset.
I'm afraid you have been misinformed there!
The D&D Beyond website is most certainly both owned and run by Curse. You are paying Curse for this service and, as part of the licensing deal they have with Wizards of the Coast, some of that money goes to Wizards.
What is happening with D&D Beyond, is that Curse & WotC are working closely together to help each other be successful - a partnership, which is a great thing for both companies and ultimately the D&D game will be better for us, the players.
This is overly reductive. WotC owns the content, the text and rules of the book, and has then licensed that content to Curse who has built a webportal of which they own the elements, the coding and design, which is used to display the content. When people are haggling about the cost of DnDbeyond they need to understand that WotC has set the price of the Content while Curse has set the price of the Webportal. IE WotC proscribed how much each book would cost and Curse set the price of the subscription to use the site. They did this in a back and forth negotiation I'm sure but that's basically how things are. Any change in the service model would have to be negotiated again and its doubtful that WotC will budge on the price right now because they have no evidence the alternatives would be more profitable or effective.
I will however argue two things.
First the discussion around price is valid, there are a number of other pricing models that people would be willing to pay and ultimately the hobby is best served by determining the one that serves the most people. Without discussing the issue you'll end up being stuck with a model without exploring more options. Curse has been very good about allowing these discussions to go on without squashing them. They simply ask it be civil and keep it from interfering with other discussions. They have also noted multiple times that the suggestions have been heard even if they aren't implemented.
Second, because WotC is responsible for the pricing of the book content it should be brought to WotC attention that you want these changes. I highly encourage people to contact the CEO of Hasbro here https://www.ceoemail.com/s.php?id=ceo-12667. Tell him about your pricing suggestions. Then, go to every service that uses WotC's pricing model for digital content and start this same discussion. If DnDBeyond, Roll20, FantasyGrounds, and anyone else licensing the content all came to the bargaining table telling WotC the pricing model should change its more likely to actually get changed. I see a lot of people commenting to Curse but not taking further action, go beyond and bring the issue to those with power and champion the idea if it matters so much.
One important thing I think there is to realize when it comes to cost discussion is curse *already* bargained the price down. Before beyond I believe the going rate for digital tools was $50 and it wasn't until afterwards that those prices have all dropped to $30 as well.
One important thing I think there is to realize when it comes to cost discussion is curse *already* bargained the price down. Before beyond I believe the going rate for digital tools was $50 and it wasn't until afterwards that those prices have all dropped to $30 as well.
Correct, you are.
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It would be really cool if hardcopy books contained a code or something that would allow access to DDB content. I find it hard to spend another $30 for a digital copy of a book I already own.
Wow, which ever mod moved this got to it quick. Field, I suggest reading this thread. If you still aren't happy with the responses, do some searching around here for other similar threads. Or read this condensed version of the conversation your original thread would have had before it was moved.
I feel bad because this has been hashed out SO many times that the regulars here are losing patience in having an actual discussion on the topic. So I'll cut it short. Don't think it's worth $30 to have a copy on DDB? Then don't buy one and be happy with your physical book. If you think the tools here are so useful you feel like you need them, then they are worth then you'll have to deal with paying for them. I personally like my physical books. I also think DDB offers great value. I have Xanathar's pre-ordered in both mediums.
At this time, all purchases on D&D Beyond are for content on D&D Beyond only. Unfortunately, there is not a way to unlock the digital content if you have purchased the books. We realize and understand the concerns over re-purchasing content, but the material in D&D Beyond is in a different format and platform.
It would be really cool if hardcopy books contained a code or something that would allow access to DDB content. I find it hard to spend another $30 for a digital copy of a book I already own.
Exactly, how many books have you recently bought which would give you a code to download the kindle, epub or any other form of digital version of said book? (honest question, 'cause here in Old Europe I can't find one for the love of Moradin)
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About 1 million PHBs have been sold on Amazon ALONE. That doesn't include retail, FLG stores or any other online stores. That also doesn't include any other books. So going off of the price on here and the amount sold if everyone wanted to redeem PHBs on here even though it's impossible to prove ownership, Curse would be giving away about $30,000,000, give or take about $3,000,000 assuming at least 1/3 of the members have bought the PHB on here, in product without being paid a single dollar. Now that doesn't seem like a good deal, does it?
It would be really cool if hardcopy books contained a code or something that would allow access to DDB content. I find it hard to spend another $30 for a digital copy of a book I already own.
Exactly, how many books have you recently bought which would give you a code to download the kindle, epub or any other form of digital version of said book? (honest question, 'cause here in Old Europe I can't find one for the love of Moradin)
My English classbook, for instance :)
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Yeah, but they've said it's a long way off. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Wizards of the Coast moat assuredly owns this site if you ask them. Twitch however runs it. The access to the DnD content that you get is from WotC. When you pay for the use of the subclasses, compendium content, or anything at all that it part of the DnD gaming system, that is going to WotC minus the normal commission that goes to all e-vendors. When you start a subscription, that is what goes to support and pay for the toolset.
Asking for claim codes to be included with books is not out of line or hurtful to the dndbeyond site, in fact it would be a blessing to it. But it would cost WotC the double dip they are currently getting from some dupes.
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Unfortunately, whoever you got this information from, regardless of where they work, the information is incorrect.
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One important thing I think there is to realize when it comes to cost discussion is curse *already* bargained the price down. Before beyond I believe the going rate for digital tools was $50 and it wasn't until afterwards that those prices have all dropped to $30 as well.
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It would be really cool if hardcopy books contained a code or something that would allow access to DDB content. I find it hard to spend another $30 for a digital copy of a book I already own.
Wow, which ever mod moved this got to it quick. Field, I suggest reading this thread. If you still aren't happy with the responses, do some searching around here for other similar threads. Or read this condensed version of the conversation your original thread would have had before it was moved.
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I've already bought PHB (twice) and DMG on Amazon. What should I do to access this information on the D&D Beyond?
Or D&D Beyound doesn't support prior D&D community players and I have to buy all content again?
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About 1 million PHBs have been sold on Amazon ALONE. That doesn't include retail, FLG stores or any other online stores. That also doesn't include any other books. So going off of the price on here and the amount sold if everyone wanted to redeem PHBs on here even though it's impossible to prove ownership, Curse would be giving away about $30,000,000, give or take about $3,000,000 assuming at least 1/3 of the members have bought the PHB on here, in product without being paid a single dollar. Now that doesn't seem like a good deal, does it?
My English classbook, for instance :)