RAW is intentionally silent on this, as it's intended to be flavour which is adjusted to be appropriate to your class and setting. Despite what others have said elsewhere on the boards, DxJxC is correct. It needs to be loud enough that, unless there are mitigating circumstances (such as being in a loud tavern where the ambient noise can cover it), people will hear it if in a reasonable range. How loud it actually is isn't covered in RAW (to my knowledge), but the above guidelines is a reasonable guide, exactly how loud depends on the DM.
The above list of examples are pretty good. I'd alter one of them. Artificers aren't casting true magic (in a fluff sense, mechanically it works the same), so I don't think they use a command word. Instead, they're building a contraption, so what people are hearing is the hammering as they bodge some contraption up, and perhaps the curses and mutterings as they try and get it working. Since it is done on the fly, it only has a single use before collapsing, so it has to be done each time. I'd say that the reason the "spell" is affected by silence is because those sounds are part what helps the Artificer to focus, and so if he's forced to be silent, the "spell" fails.
As mentioned, the point of the V component, at least in large part, is to prevent stealth and subject it to relevant spells and conditions like silence, so long as you can resolve those problems, let your imagination go wild. Do whatever makes your game more immersive. Just don't let the players steal class abilities; specifically, Sorceror's Subtle Spell metamagic ability. If you let them perform the V component so quietly no one can hear them, you're robbing the Sorceror of their power.
As for spell scrolls, I don't believe there is anything RAW. However, to my mind, since the spell has to be on your spell list, it'll be in the form that your class uses to cast spells. So, for example, if it's on the Cleric list, then it will be a prayer. Same as a Paladin (except the nature of the prayer makes it invalid for Clerics, or vice versa) or is shared between them (the prayer is valid one for both). If it's in the Wizard list, it will be an incantation. If it's an Artificer spell, it'll be instructions on how to build the device. If it's both Artificer and Wizard, then it'll have both, or perhaps it'll be one, but the other class will have the know-how to convert the information so it's useful for them. You get the idea.
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Keep in mind that for scrolls, they have to be read aloud to work so that is your verbal component when using a scroll.
This is incorrect.
From Spell Scroll the only thing is says about casting the spell from the scroll:
A spell scroll bears the words of a single spell, written in a mystical cipher. If the spell is on your class’s spell list, you can read the scroll and cast its spell without providing any material components. Otherwise, the scroll is unintelligible. Casting the spell by reading the scroll requires the spell’s normal casting time. Once the spell is cast, the words on the scroll fade, and it crumbles to dust. If the casting is interrupted, the scroll is not lost.
"Read" is not the same as "read aloud". It does not state it must be read aloud so can be read silently.
Some magic items allow the user to cast a spell from the item. The spell is cast at the lowest possible spell and caster level, doesn't expend any of the user's spell slots, and requires no components, unless the item's description says otherwise. The spell uses its normal casting time, range, and duration, and the user of the item must concentrate if the spell requires concentration
So using a scroll is no different than any other magic item - you don't need to supply any components and you just need to read the words on it - not even aloud.
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Going by the provided material components of most spells, I think the official stance is to strive for the cheesiest pun or play on words you can think of. Detect thoughts requires a penny for your thoughts, minor illusion requires a bit of wool to pull over someone's eyes, etc.
Does anybody have any idea for what verbal components of spells or words on spell scrolls might be? Any help would be appreciated.
There is no RAW specific sound/word/phrase that needs to be used.
In my mind the verbal component is different between classes:
What is important is that it is spoken at or above normal speaking volume and anyone familiar with spellcasting recognises it as such (that is RAW).
RAW is intentionally silent on this, as it's intended to be flavour which is adjusted to be appropriate to your class and setting. Despite what others have said elsewhere on the boards, DxJxC is correct. It needs to be loud enough that, unless there are mitigating circumstances (such as being in a loud tavern where the ambient noise can cover it), people will hear it if in a reasonable range. How loud it actually is isn't covered in RAW (to my knowledge), but the above guidelines is a reasonable guide, exactly how loud depends on the DM.
The above list of examples are pretty good. I'd alter one of them. Artificers aren't casting true magic (in a fluff sense, mechanically it works the same), so I don't think they use a command word. Instead, they're building a contraption, so what people are hearing is the hammering as they bodge some contraption up, and perhaps the curses and mutterings as they try and get it working. Since it is done on the fly, it only has a single use before collapsing, so it has to be done each time. I'd say that the reason the "spell" is affected by silence is because those sounds are part what helps the Artificer to focus, and so if he's forced to be silent, the "spell" fails.
As mentioned, the point of the V component, at least in large part, is to prevent stealth and subject it to relevant spells and conditions like silence, so long as you can resolve those problems, let your imagination go wild. Do whatever makes your game more immersive. Just don't let the players steal class abilities; specifically, Sorceror's Subtle Spell metamagic ability. If you let them perform the V component so quietly no one can hear them, you're robbing the Sorceror of their power.
As for spell scrolls, I don't believe there is anything RAW. However, to my mind, since the spell has to be on your spell list, it'll be in the form that your class uses to cast spells. So, for example, if it's on the Cleric list, then it will be a prayer. Same as a Paladin (except the nature of the prayer makes it invalid for Clerics, or vice versa) or is shared between them (the prayer is valid one for both). If it's in the Wizard list, it will be an incantation. If it's an Artificer spell, it'll be instructions on how to build the device. If it's both Artificer and Wizard, then it'll have both, or perhaps it'll be one, but the other class will have the know-how to convert the information so it's useful for them. You get the idea.
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Keep in mind that for scrolls, they have to be read aloud to work so that is your verbal component when using a scroll.
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This is incorrect.
From Spell Scroll the only thing is says about casting the spell from the scroll:
"Read" is not the same as "read aloud". It does not state it must be read aloud so can be read silently.
A spell scroll is a Magic Item. Unless specified otherwise (and Spell Scroll doesn't) a magic item requires no components. https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/basic-rules/magic-items#Spells
So using a scroll is no different than any other magic item - you don't need to supply any components and you just need to read the words on it - not even aloud.
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Going by the provided material components of most spells, I think the official stance is to strive for the cheesiest pun or play on words you can think of. Detect thoughts requires a penny for your thoughts, minor illusion requires a bit of wool to pull over someone's eyes, etc.
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