No, It is not impossible, its actually easy even w/o unique numbers just take a picture of you with your book like every bank does.
Yes, it's expensive if you think 10k/year to keep this software+people sharing books is expensive for then
What’s to stop you and your friends all chipping in to buy one book and then passing it around for the photo shoots?
Could they not just use ISBNs of physical books and only allow one account to redeem a code tied to that specific ISBN? I may be misunderstanding ISBNs.
As has been said a number of times before—probably even in this thread- ISBNs are not unique per copy. They are unique per title. Every PHB has the same ISBN. Every DMG has the same ISBN.
Okay, obviously I haven’t seen any mention of ISBNs or I wouldn’t have commented. Also obvious was the fact that I already assumed I was incorrect. I’m still new here and while I thank you for the correction, maybe try to be less of an ass.
No, It is not impossible, its actually easy even w/o unique numbers just take a picture of you with your book like every bank does.
Yes, it's expensive if you think 10k/year to keep this software+people sharing books is expensive for then
What’s to stop you and your friends all chipping in to buy one book and then passing it around for the photo shoots?
Could they not just use ISBNs of physical books and only allow one account to redeem a code tied to that specific ISBN? I may be misunderstanding ISBNs.
Every English language copy of each book uses the same ISBN. Every PHB uses the same ISBN, every DMG uses the same ISBN…. So no, they can’t do that.
Okay, I definitely misunderstood ISBNs, thank you for the correction.
Unfortunately, there is no possibility of backwards granting access to content on D&D Beyond, for free, based on physical books you already own.
On top of other reasons, there is no way to legitimately discern who has purchased a physical book (barcodes/receipts etc are not viable).
With regards future book purchases, we are exploring options. We're not able to share what that might look like as, at this point, it's still exploratory.
Whilst probably not the answer that you wanted to read, I hope this provides the answer requested.
Could they not just use ISBNs of physical books and only allow one account to redeem a code tied to that specific ISBN? I may be misunderstanding ISBNs.
As has been said a number of times before—probably even in this thread- ISBNs are not unique per copy. They are unique per title. Every PHB has the same ISBN. Every DMG has the same ISBN.
Okay, obviously I haven’t seen any mention of ISBNs or I wouldn’t have commented. Also obvious was the fact that I already assumed I was incorrect. I’m still new here and while I thank you for the correction, maybe try to be less of an ass.
I'm sorry if I came off as being rude. The ISBN question has been asked multiple times of late, and for those of use who have seen these questions and debates going on for nearly 5 years, it gets a bit tiresome. I'm normally more patient than I was in this response, so my apologies again.
Unfortunately, there is no possibility of backwards granting access to content on D&D Beyond, for free, based on physical books you already own.
On top of other reasons, there is no way to legitimately discern who has purchased a physical book (barcodes/receipts etc are not viable).
With regards future book purchases, we are exploring options. We're not able to share what that might look like as, at this point, it's still exploratory.
Whilst probably not the answer that you wanted to read, I hope this provides the answer requested.
That's pretty exciting actually. It's about what I expected in regards to WoTC not being able to offer it retrospectively. I'd also be surprised if they ever offer it on any of the currently published books, but who knows what they may do with future content.
From what I've gathered by looking at the comments, I think the main thing that people are upset about is that a lot of people use DND beyond simply for it's character building and use on Roll20, so those who pay full price for the physical book are upset that they have to pay full price for the book again just so they have access the materials they already had physically.
I fully understand and sympathize that running a website this complicated isn't easy, but I did see one point that I could stand behind (mostly because I really like having physical books, but the digital ones are easier to share) that maybe the website could try and work in a system that allows those who have the physical books to essentially get a discount. And I know it sounds cheap but let me explain. The idea is that they show proof that they own the book physically (not sure how but that's the idea) and then they only need to pay, let's say half. That way they are still paying for the service being provided but they don't need to pay for information they already have, and those who work hard on the website still get paid.
And I know this sounds like "the customer is always right so just make them happy" but I can genuinely see the argument on both sides and I myself have thought about buying certain books on DND beyond, but there are certain books that I really want to have the physical version but have had to stop myself because I use DND beyond for it's character building and if I bought the physical books, then I wouldn't be able to use it.
These are just my opinions mixed in with what I hope to be a nicer way of saying what we want. I hope you have a nice day.
This would not be a difficult task that would cost an appreciable amount of money for WoTC for new purchases of physical books. It's simple to create a unique QR code coupon insert for every hardcopy version of a source book. Maybe it would cost 0.50 USD to get the publisher to print out the QR codes from your cloud app and stick it into the front cover of each book prior to shipping. The buyer would just have to login to DNDBeyond on a mobile device, scan the QR code, and bam...sourcebook license accepted. Hell, we already do this for dumb stuff like vape products to ensure you're getting genuine vs. knockoff products. This isn't rocket science.
This would not be a difficult task that would cost an appreciable amount of money for WoTC for new purchases of physical books. It's simple to create a unique QR code coupon insert for every hardcopy version of a source book. Maybe it would cost 0.50 USD to get the publisher to print out the QR codes from your cloud app and stick it into the front cover of each book prior to shipping. The buyer would just have to login to DNDBeyond on a mobile device, scan the QR code, and bam...sourcebook license accepted. Hell, we already do this for dumb stuff like vape products to ensure you're getting genuine vs. knockoff products. This isn't rocket science.
And why should Wizards do that? Beyond is a business operation, and it costs money to run it. It makes no sense for Wizards to offer Beyond completely for free to people who have a physical book just because they own a physical book. Workers who run Beyond need to be compensated for fairly, just like people who make the physical books.
Accounting and finance is not rocket science, but people still think they can run a business better than corporate can.
This would not be a difficult task that would cost an appreciable amount of money for WoTC for new purchases of physical books. It's simple to create a unique QR code coupon insert for every hardcopy version of a source book. Maybe it would cost 0.50 USD to get the publisher to print out the QR codes from your cloud app and stick it into the front cover of each book prior to shipping. The buyer would just have to login to DNDBeyond on a mobile device, scan the QR code, and bam...sourcebook license accepted. Hell, we already do this for dumb stuff like vape products to ensure you're getting genuine vs. knockoff products. This isn't rocket science.
And why should Wizards do that? Beyond is a business operation, and it costs money to run it. It makes no sense for Wizards to offer Beyond completely for free to people who have a physical book just because they own a physical book. Workers who run Beyond need to be compensated for fairly, just like people who make the physical books.
Accounting and finance is not rocket science, but people still think they can run a business better than corporate can.
Not to mention that it's neither that cheap, nor that easy. Any change that requires a separate, unique, action for each book printed is going to slow down the process significantly. Then you need to take steps to prevent people from just opening books in the store to scan the code. And stores hate that, because browsing helps sell books, and, and, and....
Apparently you guys missed the big announcement. WoTC is planning to do digital bundling with the upcoming One DnD source books. They’re actually starting it with the new Dragonlance release and It sounds like it’s the plan for future new releases.
Apparently you guys missed the big announcement. WoTC is planning to do digital bundling with the upcoming One DnD source books. They’re actually starting it with the new Dragonlance release and It sounds like it’s the plan for future new releases.
It is true that they are offering Dragonlance as a bundle. That said, there are several caveats:
-they’ve been clear it’s an experiment, not a guarantee for future releases
-physical/digital Dragonlance bundles are only available if you order direct from Wizards. One cannot buy a bundle at a FLGS or through Amazon
-in the US, once shipping is included in the price, it’s not much cheaper than buying the two separately.
-in many places outside the US, once shipping is figured in, the bundle actually costs more than buying the physical book and DDB access separately.
I've really been having a hard time comprehending some blind support/fanboyism, here I was thinking of supporting this project along with it's original creators by purchasing physical copies, as I was merely trying to see if they were interchangeable(I don't use Beyond btw, I've dropped it as soon as I felt limited by it's free options and checking on the market) only to find people shitting on each other like politics.
I just want a better service, if the middleman is affiliated with the creators themselves one would expect them to share on profits, and when your product as a very specific problem you sometimes need to contact the distributor, sometimes the manufacturer, this is NOT about asking for two different copies of the same game this is about getting the support for the best use of your purchased game, and Beyond is NOT a bookstore, it doesn't market as one at least, and even if it was I could contact them for a publisher's mistake so the message could be delivered from a trusted source after the issue was detected, IF it was detected, it's about putting your service provider accountable for the decision made.
Normally(...)digital copies are much cheaper than physical ones, because you use a meaningless portion of the resources needed to publish said contents, I would definitely ask for a digital copy of a physical book if I have a contact of the middleman that manages both services, if not directly then by association, I would bet with anyone here that I would get my digital book after the much needed verification checks. Because it costs them peanuts to send me that copy.
Beyond developed one of the best GUI for digital DND, but, IMO, it's getting a little too much credit. It's not the best. There are better options out there that take 2 bucks out of you to remove ads, developed a self-sufficient UI that lets the community add anything, customize even how said item rolls the dice, saves added information, and with no further payments [Fight Club 5e at the top of my head, but only if you know how to download and upload files, easily multiplying Beyond's capacity as a tool -that is what Beyond is, a tool, if you look at it as a Bookstore it's your way or the highway I guess, but all of the above is still true- and there are other options but I'm just mentioning the one I found that personally like how intuitive it's design is even when compared to Beyond]
So...The only reason I see for the digital copies in this official third-party app to be as high as their physical ones is simple supply and demand.
The only way to get what you pay for...is much more simple than arguing here on who's right or wrong: people who want better service should stop asking for more service, while still being subscribed to it, and start putting their money where their mouth is... people who support the service they're getting -well- I don't see why you should be faulted for not seeing a problem if there is none.
I'll keep looking because I like people to enjoy the most while spending the least. I will still purchase digital items, but I will always value physical items a lot more...Unless there's a digital cure for cancer or something, in that case PM me with the invoice already!
A) digital copies haven't been "much cheaper" than physical copies for years. For the most part, you pay the same for a digital copy of any novel as you do for it's paperback counterpart for anything mass produced. And in general you're paying 1/2 or less for the digital copy here at D&Dbeyond than you are for the physical in your FLGS.
B) Fight club is an unlicensed app. The grand majority of the folks I hear about it from are using pirated pdfs to upload content to the app.
C) A very large number of the users at D&DBeyond have been users since long before WotC bought the site, and as such have already invested in this site being successful. The minute they start withdrawing their subscriptions, they can't use a large number of the features they already have access to. They'd have to literally repurchase digital content at other sites in order to "put their money where there mouth is" as you put it.
You've already said you don't use Beyond, so you have nothing to lose, no stake whatsoever in pulling up and moving elsewhere.
I've really been having a hard time comprehending some blind support/fanboyism, here I was thinking of supporting this project along with it's original creators by purchasing physical copies, as I was merely trying to see if they were interchangeable(I don't use Beyond btw, I've dropped it as soon as I felt limited by it's free options and checking on the market)
I stopped reading everything after this because I'm just going to assume you're complaining about it not being free.
A) Not really what I've seen and how I've compared, it's not the same price that's for sure, but 1/2 or less is verifiably, and exclusively(as far as I know, I use an e-reader, Kobo and there, at their store, it is less than half their physical form), false. I've confirmed when I wrote that, and I've confirmed again to reply to you, you have a 10$ difference at best for a 40$ item).
B) True, XMLs tho but your point stands true, and I understand the implications, it's still surprising to me that an official app has less care than some fans give to unofficial apps, what I mean about this is how intuitive is Fight Club in comparison AND how much more information an item holds, put in place by non-funded fans(keep in mind that these did not give this care for a single item, but a whole compendium), when beyond is funded in every step of this process.
C) That is also true, and if they are content I don't see a problem with it, I just don't think all of them are and I was giving a suggestion to those, not everyone. Their loss is calculated damage and since they don't own the content they're using... I don't see a loss, it could just be a temporary loss if they think Beyond was better than the alternatives available anyway, purchase subscription again, where is the loss? If you've purchased at least half of the digital books yourself then perhaps your best course of action is continue to use Beyond because you've already invested a sufficient amount to be loyal, I think that's on you to decide, not me.
I was fortunate enough to get in the game when the market was full of pretty good alternatives, as a consequence I know less of the actual game, enjoyed less, but I would pay for the content. Just like my steam library has over 500 games(weird flex, I know, it's to contextualize another reply) I would gladly pay Beyond for usage of the platform IF it was the best OR(the usage of AND here would be optimal but I'm trying to be as fair as possible with my words while remaining true to myself) if the physical copies were interchangeable with the digital ones, because as you know, or should know, they lose no resources from making content more available, from what I've seen companies do... They tend to get more usage out of their service and as a consequence more income since they're already using resources to maintain servers. Steam is a great example of a liberal marketplace and for good reasons it's the most used gaming platform, I was one that would only pirate games but steam made it accessible for me to purchase, keep, and enjoy with my friends... Soo, as I am fully content with their service I only download pirated games to see IF I want to purchase them on steam, I actually overspend when I'm content with the service, my criteria becomes WANT, not NEED, but when I don't like it, my criteria is NEED. I got frustrated with Beyond from get-go when I could add the race available at chicken-dinner, I cast that gripe aside understanding the paywall behind my choice and as I was trying to redesign my character on Beyond I found it very unintuitive, and I'm familiar with unintuitive UIs but it took the cake.
And I repeat, I only got to this thread because of my OR condition to contributing, I was saddened to know I had no reason to go back to Beyond but more-so with people criticizing the idea of having a more accessible service, I don't know if it's because of their money spent to buy both content and now they think it should be kept this way but I find it very unreasonable since that would mean that more people would be playing your way. So I decided to participate in this debate, your reply was reasonable, TheSpaniard1876, but given the amount of blindfolded people arguing here, the second reply was only obvious to come. "Let's fight and judge ourselves instead." I'm sorry for the long text, I'm trying to be as clear and objective as possible.
Thank you for actually reading before replying by the way, it's the only way to continue a conversation. It's not like we would be insulting each other for disagreeing with the other's practice. You do you and I do me.
I'm still slightly confused after reading through this thread. Are we able to add our physical copies of the D&D books onto D&D beyond since its now owned by wizards of the coast?
Going forward, they're experimenting with bundling physical and digital together, first with the Dragonlance book, but, because they're doing the fulfillment themselves, the shipping costs make it somewhere between no better than buying separately (except you get it early), and way more expensive than buying separately.
And yet you still advertise like you are owned by the same company. Works for you because everyone thinks you're official, and it works for them so that they can gouge their fan base for three times they would get out of a single book.
******* Shameful.
BUT WE JUST GET TO SUCK IT UP BECAUSE CAPITALISM HAS DECIDED TO CREATE GENERATIONS WHO OWN NOTHING.
The acquisition of D&D Beyond by WoTC was only recent. I don't think it unreasonable for them not to be able to instantly roll out something that still hasn't completed what is essentially a beta test - a digital/physical bundle sale. Would I love to (eventually) be able to purchase a largely discounted physical copy of everything I have purchased on here? You bet! Am I going to be mad if that never can happen? Nope, though disappointment very well could factor in.
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Okay, obviously I haven’t seen any mention of ISBNs or I wouldn’t have commented. Also obvious was the fact that I already assumed I was incorrect. I’m still new here and while I thank you for the correction, maybe try to be less of an ass.
Okay, I definitely misunderstood ISBNs, thank you for the correction.
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I'm sorry if I came off as being rude. The ISBN question has been asked multiple times of late, and for those of use who have seen these questions and debates going on for nearly 5 years, it gets a bit tiresome. I'm normally more patient than I was in this response, so my apologies again.
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That's pretty exciting actually. It's about what I expected in regards to WoTC not being able to offer it retrospectively. I'd also be surprised if they ever offer it on any of the currently published books, but who knows what they may do with future content.
From what I've gathered by looking at the comments, I think the main thing that people are upset about is that a lot of people use DND beyond simply for it's character building and use on Roll20, so those who pay full price for the physical book are upset that they have to pay full price for the book again just so they have access the materials they already had physically.
I fully understand and sympathize that running a website this complicated isn't easy, but I did see one point that I could stand behind (mostly because I really like having physical books, but the digital ones are easier to share) that maybe the website could try and work in a system that allows those who have the physical books to essentially get a discount. And I know it sounds cheap but let me explain. The idea is that they show proof that they own the book physically (not sure how but that's the idea) and then they only need to pay, let's say half. That way they are still paying for the service being provided but they don't need to pay for information they already have, and those who work hard on the website still get paid.
And I know this sounds like "the customer is always right so just make them happy" but I can genuinely see the argument on both sides and I myself have thought about buying certain books on DND beyond, but there are certain books that I really want to have the physical version but have had to stop myself because I use DND beyond for it's character building and if I bought the physical books, then I wouldn't be able to use it.
These are just my opinions mixed in with what I hope to be a nicer way of saying what we want. I hope you have a nice day.
This would not be a difficult task that would cost an appreciable amount of money for WoTC for new purchases of physical books. It's simple to create a unique QR code coupon insert for every hardcopy version of a source book. Maybe it would cost 0.50 USD to get the publisher to print out the QR codes from your cloud app and stick it into the front cover of each book prior to shipping. The buyer would just have to login to DNDBeyond on a mobile device, scan the QR code, and bam...sourcebook license accepted. Hell, we already do this for dumb stuff like vape products to ensure you're getting genuine vs. knockoff products. This isn't rocket science.
And why should Wizards do that? Beyond is a business operation, and it costs money to run it. It makes no sense for Wizards to offer Beyond completely for free to people who have a physical book just because they own a physical book. Workers who run Beyond need to be compensated for fairly, just like people who make the physical books.
Accounting and finance is not rocket science, but people still think they can run a business better than corporate can.
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Not to mention that it's neither that cheap, nor that easy. Any change that requires a separate, unique, action for each book printed is going to slow down the process significantly. Then you need to take steps to prevent people from just opening books in the store to scan the code. And stores hate that, because browsing helps sell books, and, and, and....
Apparently you guys missed the big announcement. WoTC is planning to do digital bundling with the upcoming One DnD source books. They’re actually starting it with the new Dragonlance release and It sounds like it’s the plan for future new releases.
It is true that they are offering Dragonlance as a bundle. That said, there are several caveats:
-they’ve been clear it’s an experiment, not a guarantee for future releases
-physical/digital Dragonlance bundles are only available if you order direct from Wizards. One cannot buy a bundle at a FLGS or through Amazon
-in the US, once shipping is included in the price, it’s not much cheaper than buying the two separately.
-in many places outside the US, once shipping is figured in, the bundle actually costs more than buying the physical book and DDB access separately.
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I've really been having a hard time comprehending some blind support/fanboyism, here I was thinking of supporting this project along with it's original creators by purchasing physical copies, as I was merely trying to see if they were interchangeable(I don't use Beyond btw, I've dropped it as soon as I felt limited by it's free options and checking on the market) only to find people shitting on each other like politics.
I just want a better service, if the middleman is affiliated with the creators themselves one would expect them to share on profits, and when your product as a very specific problem you sometimes need to contact the distributor, sometimes the manufacturer, this is NOT about asking for two different copies of the same game this is about getting the support for the best use of your purchased game, and Beyond is NOT a bookstore, it doesn't market as one at least, and even if it was I could contact them for a publisher's mistake so the message could be delivered from a trusted source after the issue was detected, IF it was detected, it's about putting your service provider accountable for the decision made.
Normally(...)digital copies are much cheaper than physical ones, because you use a meaningless portion of the resources needed to publish said contents, I would definitely ask for a digital copy of a physical book if I have a contact of the middleman that manages both services, if not directly then by association, I would bet with anyone here that I would get my digital book after the much needed verification checks. Because it costs them peanuts to send me that copy.
Beyond developed one of the best GUI for digital DND, but, IMO, it's getting a little too much credit. It's not the best. There are better options out there that take 2 bucks out of you to remove ads, developed a self-sufficient UI that lets the community add anything, customize even how said item rolls the dice, saves added information, and with no further payments [Fight Club 5e at the top of my head, but only if you know how to download and upload files, easily multiplying Beyond's capacity as a tool -that is what Beyond is, a tool, if you look at it as a Bookstore it's your way or the highway I guess, but all of the above is still true- and there are other options but I'm just mentioning the one I found that personally like how intuitive it's design is even when compared to Beyond]
So...The only reason I see for the digital copies in this official third-party app to be as high as their physical ones is simple supply and demand.
The only way to get what you pay for...is much more simple than arguing here on who's right or wrong: people who want better service should stop asking for more service, while still being subscribed to it, and start putting their money where their mouth is... people who support the service they're getting -well- I don't see why you should be faulted for not seeing a problem if there is none.
I'll keep looking because I like people to enjoy the most while spending the least. I will still purchase digital items, but I will always value physical items a lot more...Unless there's a digital cure for cancer or something, in that case PM me with the invoice already!
A) digital copies haven't been "much cheaper" than physical copies for years. For the most part, you pay the same for a digital copy of any novel as you do for it's paperback counterpart for anything mass produced. And in general you're paying 1/2 or less for the digital copy here at D&Dbeyond than you are for the physical in your FLGS.
B) Fight club is an unlicensed app. The grand majority of the folks I hear about it from are using pirated pdfs to upload content to the app.
C) A very large number of the users at D&DBeyond have been users since long before WotC bought the site, and as such have already invested in this site being successful. The minute they start withdrawing their subscriptions, they can't use a large number of the features they already have access to. They'd have to literally repurchase digital content at other sites in order to "put their money where there mouth is" as you put it.
You've already said you don't use Beyond, so you have nothing to lose, no stake whatsoever in pulling up and moving elsewhere.
I stopped reading everything after this because I'm just going to assume you're complaining about it not being free.
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A) Not really what I've seen and how I've compared, it's not the same price that's for sure, but 1/2 or less is verifiably, and exclusively(as far as I know, I use an e-reader, Kobo and there, at their store, it is less than half their physical form), false. I've confirmed when I wrote that, and I've confirmed again to reply to you, you have a 10$ difference at best for a 40$ item).
B) True, XMLs tho but your point stands true, and I understand the implications, it's still surprising to me that an official app has less care than some fans give to unofficial apps, what I mean about this is how intuitive is Fight Club in comparison AND how much more information an item holds, put in place by non-funded fans(keep in mind that these did not give this care for a single item, but a whole compendium), when beyond is funded in every step of this process.
C) That is also true, and if they are content I don't see a problem with it, I just don't think all of them are and I was giving a suggestion to those, not everyone. Their loss is calculated damage and since they don't own the content they're using... I don't see a loss, it could just be a temporary loss if they think Beyond was better than the alternatives available anyway, purchase subscription again, where is the loss? If you've purchased at least half of the digital books yourself then perhaps your best course of action is continue to use Beyond because you've already invested a sufficient amount to be loyal, I think that's on you to decide, not me.
I was fortunate enough to get in the game when the market was full of pretty good alternatives, as a consequence I know less of the actual game, enjoyed less, but I would pay for the content. Just like my steam library has over 500 games(weird flex, I know, it's to contextualize another reply) I would gladly pay Beyond for usage of the platform IF it was the best OR(the usage of AND here would be optimal but I'm trying to be as fair as possible with my words while remaining true to myself) if the physical copies were interchangeable with the digital ones, because as you know, or should know, they lose no resources from making content more available, from what I've seen companies do... They tend to get more usage out of their service and as a consequence more income since they're already using resources to maintain servers. Steam is a great example of a liberal marketplace and for good reasons it's the most used gaming platform, I was one that would only pirate games but steam made it accessible for me to purchase, keep, and enjoy with my friends... Soo, as I am fully content with their service I only download pirated games to see IF I want to purchase them on steam, I actually overspend when I'm content with the service, my criteria becomes WANT, not NEED, but when I don't like it, my criteria is NEED. I got frustrated with Beyond from get-go when I could add the race available at chicken-dinner, I cast that gripe aside understanding the paywall behind my choice and as I was trying to redesign my character on Beyond I found it very unintuitive, and I'm familiar with unintuitive UIs but it took the cake.
And I repeat, I only got to this thread because of my OR condition to contributing, I was saddened to know I had no reason to go back to Beyond but more-so with people criticizing the idea of having a more accessible service, I don't know if it's because of their money spent to buy both content and now they think it should be kept this way but I find it very unreasonable since that would mean that more people would be playing your way. So I decided to participate in this debate, your reply was reasonable, TheSpaniard1876, but given the amount of blindfolded people arguing here, the second reply was only obvious to come. "Let's fight and judge ourselves instead." I'm sorry for the long text, I'm trying to be as clear and objective as possible.
Thank you for actually reading before replying by the way, it's the only way to continue a conversation. It's not like we would be insulting each other for disagreeing with the other's practice. You do you and I do me.
I'm still slightly confused after reading through this thread. Are we able to add our physical copies of the D&D books onto D&D beyond since its now owned by wizards of the coast?
No.
Going forward, they're experimenting with bundling physical and digital together, first with the Dragonlance book, but, because they're doing the fulfillment themselves, the shipping costs make it somewhere between no better than buying separately (except you get it early), and way more expensive than buying separately.
And yet you still advertise like you are owned by the same company. Works for you because everyone thinks you're official, and it works for them so that they can gouge their fan base for three times they would get out of a single book.
******* Shameful.
BUT WE JUST GET TO SUCK IT UP BECAUSE CAPITALISM HAS DECIDED TO CREATE GENERATIONS WHO OWN NOTHING.
Thank you sir, may I have another.
The acquisition of D&D Beyond by WoTC was only recent. I don't think it unreasonable for them not to be able to instantly roll out something that still hasn't completed what is essentially a beta test - a digital/physical bundle sale. Would I love to (eventually) be able to purchase a largely discounted physical copy of everything I have purchased on here? You bet! Am I going to be mad if that never can happen? Nope, though disappointment very well could factor in.