I'll be the super grumpy guy and say I think this looks pretty bad. It's clearly, desperately trying to be an MCU movie - especially in line with Ant-Man or Guardians of the Galaxy - and has a very try-hard vibe to it. Jokes and dialogue feel tired and lame. It actually features a character saying "This ends now," a worn out, lazy trope that's been old for a long time. Everything I'm seeing feels like it was studio-noted to death.
A lot of folks have criticized WOTC D&D material for being flavorless or generic. That's exactly what this feels like: sanded down comedy wearing fantasy tropes.
For me, several near-perfect D&D movies already exist: Dragonslayer, Conan the Barbarian (1982), Big Trouble in Little China, King Arthur: Legend of the Sword. I don't expect this new movie to come close to any of them in terms of quality and rewatch value.
I'll be the super grumpy guy and say I think this looks pretty bad. It's clearly, desperately trying to be an MCU movie - especially in line with Ant-Man or Guardians of the Galaxy - and has a very try-hard vibe to it. Jokes and dialogue feel tired and lame. It actually features a character saying "This ends now," a worn out, lazy trope that's been old for a long time. Everything I'm seeing feels like it was studio-noted to death.
Everything you list here is why I am excited to see it. Actually playing D&D is full of these kinds of antics, self-referential jokes on clichés, and dialogue that can often best be described as incredibly lame. As far as I can tell, the trailers speak to how the vast majority of folks play D&D—sitting around with friends being fantasy goofballs while making bad jokes and even worse plans.
D&D has always been a game that wants to be the sword and sorcery of Conan or the high fantasy of the Lord of the Rings; but that’s rarely what it is. Like it or not, the lovable (and slightly sociopathic) oddballs of Guardians of the Galaxy are probably closer to most folks’ D&D experiences than any of your examples.
I'll be the super grumpy guy and say I think this looks pretty bad. It's clearly, desperately trying to be an MCU movie - especially in line with Ant-Man or Guardians of the Galaxy - and has a very try-hard vibe to it. Jokes and dialogue feel tired and lame. It actually features a character saying "This ends now," a worn out, lazy trope that's been old for a long time. Everything I'm seeing feels like it was studio-noted to death.
Tbh, I love the clever use of tropes that somehow manage to worm their way into every D&D game. To me, this is what makes D&D D&D; The inside jokes and snarky comments that indicate you are familiar with the players and characters involved in the game. I guess everyone just has different things they look for in movies.
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Sadly I don't care. I won't be seeing the movie unless WotC makes drastic changes to earn back some trust. I don't even want to give them any viral traction by actually seeing that trailer.
And before you even ask; Doesn't matter if it has adverse affects to the rest of the TTRPG industry, I'm not going to be guilt-tripped into giving this company any money. They won't understand anything other then the bottle line and only they are being held responsible for their BS.
Totally psyched for the movie and I liked this trailer more than the last. Will be nice to just get lost in the fun and adventure of D&D for a while without all the rage and drama that's taken over the entire community.
I'll be the super grumpy guy and say I think this looks pretty bad. It's clearly, desperately trying to be an MCU movie - especially in line with Ant-Man or Guardians of the Galaxy - and has a very try-hard vibe to it. Jokes and dialogue feel tired and lame. It actually features a character saying "This ends now," a worn out, lazy trope that's been old for a long time. Everything I'm seeing feels like it was studio-noted to death.
Everything you list here is why I am excited to see it. Actually playing D&D is full of these kinds of antics, self-referential jokes on clichés, and dialogue that can often best be described as incredibly lame. As far as I can tell, the trailers speak to how the vast majority of folks play D&D—sitting around with friends being fantasy goofballs while making bad jokes and even worse plans.
D&D has always been a game that wants to be the sword and sorcery of Conan or the high fantasy of the Lord of the Rings; but that’s rarely what it is. Like it or not, the lovable (and slightly sociopathic) oddballs of Guardians of the Galaxy are probably closer to most folks’ D&D experiences than any of your examples.
It's one thing when it's you and your friends in person. There's history and relationships there, and in that moment, using quotes and tropes is funny. I mean, I don't even like the animated version of Critical Role.
Again, I realize I'm in the minority here. Which is fine! I won't keep threadfarting. I sincerely hope it's a great time at the movies for y'all. I'm not hopeful for it being that for me, but I don't wish a bad time for anyone.
Sadly I don't care. I won't be seeing the movie unless WotC makes drastic changes to earn back some trust. I don't even want to give them any viral traction by actually seeing that trailer.
And before you even ask; Doesn't matter if it has adverse affects to the rest of the TTRPG industry, I'm not going to be guilt-tripped into giving this company any money. They won't understand anything other then the bottle line and only they are being held responsible for their BS.
I had a bottle line once, but then the semester ended, & I had to clean out my dorm.
Also, minor contradiction with "Doesn't matter if it has adverse effects to the rest of the TTRPG industry" and "only they are being held responsible for their BS". Either is fine and totally your call, but they are mutually exclusive. You're either willing to damage non-WotC companies over the ending of OGL 1.0a, or you're not.
Also, minor contradiction with "Doesn't matter if it has adverse effects to the rest of the TTRPG industry" and "only they are being held responsible for their BS". Either is fine and totally your call, but they are mutually exclusive. You're either willing to damage non-WotC companies over the ending of OGL 1.0a, or you're not.
Calling my statements "mutually exclusive" is utterly incorrect and the sort of manipulative BS that I'm talking about. I'm supporting the other companies as much as I can, but that does not include giving WotC money even indirectly. WotC is the one damaging other companies with their actions. Full stop.
Since my commenting box has stopped being broke and nobody else seems to have, I guess I can find the monsters and spells and such. Keep in mind that I don't know Forgotten Realms or magic items super well. Critique is both appreciated and encouraged, so please tell me if and how you disagree.
Party Composition:
Rogue (probably Thief)
probably Barbarian (Berserker) or maybe Fighter (Champion)
Druid (Moon)
Paladin (probably Devotion)
Sorcerer (no clue) or Wizard (also no clue). I'm leaning towards Sorcerer because I couldn't see a spellbook and some other reasons
Spells and Monsters and such:
0:35 Red Horn... don't know, probably not any normal magic item.
1:01 I would guess dimension door, but that's not on the Druid spell list (neither is arcane gate, my second guess). Maybe a magic item, maybe we all just assumed she's a druid and she actually just casted shapechange to owl up.
1:15 Flame Tongue but axe? Or maybe just a normal-ass axe that's been in a forge.
1:16 My guess is actually shocking grasp with Transmuted Spell metamagic to make it deal cold damage. Could just be flavor instead of a specific spell
Druid grapples Lich... She hasn't done a lot of Druid-y stuff besides turning into an owlbear, has she? Druids can't even technically turn into owlbears. Hm.....
In these trying times, I would like nothing more than to have a discussion on what spells were cast in a Dungeons and Dragons movie trailer. Please, if you disagree with me on something, say so.
Look at what you've done. You spoiled it. You have nobody to blame but yourself. Go sit and think about your actions.
Don't be mean. Rudeness is a vicious cycle, and it has to stop somewhere. Exceptions for things that are funny. Go to the current Competition of the Finest 'Brews! It's a cool place where cool people make cool things.
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It felt more like a half a$$ knock-off of CritRole material. Black dragon acid splashing, black horn of evil, bard who acts like they are all that, wizard that reminds me of a certain dragonborn, barbarian with an axe to grind( pun intended), druid with red hair and naive attitude.
Movie looks to be about as original as some of the latest content Wotc has released.
It felt more like a half a$$ knock-off of CritRole material. Black dragon acid splashing, black horn of evil, bard who acts like they are all that, wizard that reminds me of a certain dragonborn, barbarian with an axe to grind( pun intended), druid with red hair and naive attitude.
Movie looks to be about as original as some of the latest content Wotc has released.
Right. Because Critical Role came up with black dragons, acid, horns (this one is redand I'm pretty sure it was in the FR lore before Critical Role even existed), bards (the dude almost definitely isn't a bard, that idea is based on the fact that he has a lute and nothing else), sorcerers, barbarians, axes, druids (who knows, might not even be a druid), and redheads. The (supposed) druid doesn't even seem naïve to me.
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Look at what you've done. You spoiled it. You have nobody to blame but yourself. Go sit and think about your actions.
Don't be mean. Rudeness is a vicious cycle, and it has to stop somewhere. Exceptions for things that are funny. Go to the current Competition of the Finest 'Brews! It's a cool place where cool people make cool things.
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It felt more like a half a$$ knock-off of CritRole material. Black dragon acid splashing, black horn of evil, bard who acts like they are all that, wizard that reminds me of a certain dragonborn, barbarian with an axe to grind( pun intended), druid with red hair and naive attitude.
Movie looks to be about as original as some of the latest content Wotc has released.
Here’s the reality - that “it looks like critical role” thing people whine about? That style of play predated CR by decades. “The game is not original?” complaints? It never has been. And that’s all fine - if they manage to take those tropes and make something halfway entertaining, they’ll have created something that might actually feel like a D&D game.
And, as a fan of the game, that’s all I really want—something that will share the unbridled joy of corny lines, bad plans, and mild-to-severe intoxication to folks who have never played the game before.
It felt more like a half a$$ knock-off of CritRole material. Black dragon acid splashing, black horn of evil, bard who acts like they are all that, wizard that reminds me of a certain dragonborn, barbarian with an axe to grind( pun intended), druid with red hair and naive attitude.
Movie looks to be about as original as some of the latest content Wotc has released.
Right. Because Critical Role came up with black dragons, acid, horns (this one is redand I'm pretty sure it was in the FR lore before Critical Role even existed), bards (the dude almost definitely isn't a bard, that idea is based on the fact that he has a lute and nothing else), sorcerers, barbarians, axes, druids (who knows, might not even be a druid), and redheads. The (supposed) druid doesn't even seem naïve to me.
The trailer feels like a half-ass knock-off, the movie might be better?
Just a personal observation and opinion, you know with recent happenings and all.
For me, several near-perfect D&D movies already exist: Dragonslayer, Conan the Barbarian (1982), Big Trouble in Little China, King Arthur: Legend of the Sword. I don't expect this new movie to come close to any of them in terms of quality and rewatch value.
Whoa whoa whoa, back up a minute... did you say the GUY RITCHIE KING ARTHUR mess, with the hilariously anachronistic costuming choices, incoherent plot and typically Ritchian ham-fisted attempts at being 'edgy', is a "near-perfect D&D movie"???
Unless you meant "near-perfect representation of playing D&D with a bad DM", in which case, you may have a point
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Carric Aquissar, elven wannabe artist in his deconstructionist period (Archfey warlock) Lan Kidogo, mapach archaeologist and treasure hunter (Knowledge cleric) Mardan Ferres, elven private investigator obsessed with that one unsolved murder (Assassin rogue) Xhekhetiel, halfling survivor of a Betrayer Gods cult (Runechild sorcerer/fighter)
Druid grapples Lich... She hasn't done a lot of Druid-y stuff besides turning into an owlbear, has she? Druids can't even technically turn into owlbears. Hm.....
I love this accurate depiction of a round of D&D combat.
Right. Because Critical Role came up with black dragons, acid, horns (this one is redand I'm pretty sure it was in the FR lore before Critical Role even existed), bards (the dude almost definitely isn't a bard, that idea is based on the fact that he has a lute and nothing else), sorcerers, barbarians, axes, druids (who knows, might not even be a druid), and redheads. The (supposed) druid doesn't even seem naïve to me.
He's definitely a bard, at least according to the description of the 4 novels coming out at the end of next month. The redhead is also definitely a druid, the book that introduces her is titled "The Druids Call".
If folks skip the movie because it uses the same stereotypes that CR used, then that's their loss.
For me, several near-perfect D&D movies already exist: Dragonslayer, Conan the Barbarian (1982), Big Trouble in Little China, King Arthur: Legend of the Sword. I don't expect this new movie to come close to any of them in terms of quality and rewatch value.
Whoa whoa whoa, back up a minute... did you say the GUY RITCHIE KING ARTHUR mess, with the hilariously anachronistic costuming choices, incoherent plot and typically Ritchian ham-fisted attempts at being 'edgy', is a "near-perfect D&D movie"???
Unless you meant "near-perfect representation of playing D&D with a bad DM", in which case, you may have a point
I stand by my assessment. The movie feels EXACTLY like someone's homebrew campaign that started out as an Arthurian homage but quickly became something else. Plus the film's score is aces.
I honestly don't know how anyone can get excited at the trailer for the official D&D movie but think Ritchie's Arthur movie is "hilariously anachronistic." I also think your reading of Ritchie's movie is pretty off (I don't think it's trying to be "edgy" at all, for starters). But all art is a YMMV thing, yes? Again, to be clear: I don't begrudge anyone finding fun or excitement in the new movie (and despite my pessimism about it, I'm open to being pleasantly surprised).
I'll be the super grumpy guy and say I think this looks pretty bad. It's clearly, desperately trying to be an MCU movie - especially in line with Ant-Man or Guardians of the Galaxy - and has a very try-hard vibe to it. Jokes and dialogue feel tired and lame. It actually features a character saying "This ends now," a worn out, lazy trope that's been old for a long time. Everything I'm seeing feels like it was studio-noted to death.
A lot of folks have criticized WOTC D&D material for being flavorless or generic. That's exactly what this feels like: sanded down comedy wearing fantasy tropes.
For me, several near-perfect D&D movies already exist: Dragonslayer, Conan the Barbarian (1982), Big Trouble in Little China, King Arthur: Legend of the Sword. I don't expect this new movie to come close to any of them in terms of quality and rewatch value.
Everything you list here is why I am excited to see it. Actually playing D&D is full of these kinds of antics, self-referential jokes on clichés, and dialogue that can often best be described as incredibly lame. As far as I can tell, the trailers speak to how the vast majority of folks play D&D—sitting around with friends being fantasy goofballs while making bad jokes and even worse plans.
D&D has always been a game that wants to be the sword and sorcery of Conan or the high fantasy of the Lord of the Rings; but that’s rarely what it is. Like it or not, the lovable (and slightly sociopathic) oddballs of Guardians of the Galaxy are probably closer to most folks’ D&D experiences than any of your examples.
Tbh, I love the clever use of tropes that somehow manage to worm their way into every D&D game. To me, this is what makes D&D D&D; The inside jokes and snarky comments that indicate you are familiar with the players and characters involved in the game. I guess everyone just has different things they look for in movies.
BoringBard's long and tedious posts somehow manage to enrapture audiences. How? Because he used Charm Person, the #1 bard spell!
He/him pronouns. Call me Bard. PROUD NERD!
Ever wanted to talk about your parties' worst mistakes? Do so HERE. What's your favorite class, why? Share & explain
HERE.Sadly I don't care. I won't be seeing the movie unless WotC makes drastic changes to earn back some trust. I don't even want to give them any viral traction by actually seeing that trailer.
And before you even ask; Doesn't matter if it has adverse affects to the rest of the TTRPG industry, I'm not going to be guilt-tripped into giving this company any money. They won't understand anything other then the bottle line and only they are being held responsible for their BS.
Sylnache Ashrain - 7th Sojourn
Totally psyched for the movie and I liked this trailer more than the last. Will be nice to just get lost in the fun and adventure of D&D for a while without all the rage and drama that's taken over the entire community.
My homebrew subclasses (full list here)
(Artificer) Swordmage | Glasswright | (Barbarian) Path of the Savage Embrace
(Bard) College of Dance | (Fighter) Warlord | Cannoneer
(Monk) Way of the Elements | (Ranger) Blade Dancer
(Rogue) DaggerMaster | Inquisitor | (Sorcerer) Riftwalker | Spellfist
(Warlock) The Swarm
It's one thing when it's you and your friends in person. There's history and relationships there, and in that moment, using quotes and tropes is funny. I mean, I don't even like the animated version of Critical Role.
Again, I realize I'm in the minority here. Which is fine! I won't keep threadfarting. I sincerely hope it's a great time at the movies for y'all. I'm not hopeful for it being that for me, but I don't wish a bad time for anyone.
I had a bottle line once, but then the semester ended, & I had to clean out my dorm.
Also, minor contradiction with "Doesn't matter if it has adverse effects to the rest of the TTRPG industry" and "only they are being held responsible for their BS". Either is fine and totally your call, but they are mutually exclusive. You're either willing to damage non-WotC companies over the ending of OGL 1.0a, or you're not.
Calling my statements "mutually exclusive" is utterly incorrect and the sort of manipulative BS that I'm talking about. I'm supporting the other companies as much as I can, but that does not include giving WotC money even indirectly. WotC is the one damaging other companies with their actions. Full stop.
Sylnache Ashrain - 7th Sojourn
Since my commenting box has stopped being broke and nobody else seems to have, I guess I can find the monsters and spells and such. Keep in mind that I don't know Forgotten Realms or magic items super well. Critique is both appreciated and encouraged, so please tell me if and how you disagree.
Party Composition:
Spells and Monsters and such:
Alright, here's the fight scene at 1:57 step-by-step, since a lot happens.
In these trying times, I would like nothing more than to have a discussion on what spells were cast in a Dungeons and Dragons movie trailer. Please, if you disagree with me on something, say so.
Look at what you've done. You spoiled it. You have nobody to blame but yourself. Go sit and think about your actions.
Don't be mean. Rudeness is a vicious cycle, and it has to stop somewhere. Exceptions for things that are funny.
Go to the current Competition of the Finest 'Brews! It's a cool place where cool people make cool things.
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hm, ngl though the movie looks good,, im glad im gonna see it, hope everyone who sees it enjoys it
>>>Quar1on
Your list appears accurate.
Reading the comments section on YouTube where everyone caught these very same visual details identical to yours.
Looked like Ray of Frost; those blasts emitting from his hands were hot white.
Not Magic Missile because he misses.
Perhaps that shot was taken directly from the artwork seen in D&D Player's Handbook, The Barbarian class, page 48
It felt more like a half a$$ knock-off of CritRole material. Black dragon acid splashing, black horn of evil, bard who acts like they are all that, wizard that reminds me of a certain dragonborn, barbarian with an axe to grind( pun intended), druid with red hair and naive attitude.
Movie looks to be about as original as some of the latest content Wotc has released.
Right. Because Critical Role came up with black dragons, acid, horns (this one is red and I'm pretty sure it was in the FR lore before Critical Role even existed), bards (the dude almost definitely isn't a bard, that idea is based on the fact that he has a lute and nothing else), sorcerers, barbarians, axes, druids (who knows, might not even be a druid), and redheads. The (supposed) druid doesn't even seem naïve to me.
Look at what you've done. You spoiled it. You have nobody to blame but yourself. Go sit and think about your actions.
Don't be mean. Rudeness is a vicious cycle, and it has to stop somewhere. Exceptions for things that are funny.
Go to the current Competition of the Finest 'Brews! It's a cool place where cool people make cool things.
How I'm posting based on text formatting: Mod Hat Off - Mod Hat Also Off (I'm not a mod)
Here’s the reality - that “it looks like critical role” thing people whine about? That style of play predated CR by decades. “The game is not original?” complaints? It never has been. And that’s all fine - if they manage to take those tropes and make something halfway entertaining, they’ll have created something that might actually feel like a D&D game.
And, as a fan of the game, that’s all I really want—something that will share the unbridled joy of corny lines, bad plans, and mild-to-severe intoxication to folks who have never played the game before.
The trailer feels like a half-ass knock-off, the movie might be better?
Just a personal observation and opinion, you know with recent happenings and all.
Whoa whoa whoa, back up a minute... did you say the GUY RITCHIE KING ARTHUR mess, with the hilariously anachronistic costuming choices, incoherent plot and typically Ritchian ham-fisted attempts at being 'edgy', is a "near-perfect D&D movie"???
Unless you meant "near-perfect representation of playing D&D with a bad DM", in which case, you may have a point
Active characters:
Carric Aquissar, elven wannabe artist in his deconstructionist period (Archfey warlock)
Lan Kidogo, mapach archaeologist and treasure hunter (Knowledge cleric)
Mardan Ferres, elven private investigator obsessed with that one unsolved murder (Assassin rogue)
Xhekhetiel, halfling survivor of a Betrayer Gods cult (Runechild sorcerer/fighter)
The movie looks great. Looks can be deceiving, it could just be great editing for the commercials. Still looking forward to seeing it.
I love this accurate depiction of a round of D&D combat.
He's definitely a bard, at least according to the description of the 4 novels coming out at the end of next month. The redhead is also definitely a druid, the book that introduces her is titled "The Druids Call".
If folks skip the movie because it uses the same stereotypes that CR used, then that's their loss.
I stand by my assessment. The movie feels EXACTLY like someone's homebrew campaign that started out as an Arthurian homage but quickly became something else. Plus the film's score is aces.
I honestly don't know how anyone can get excited at the trailer for the official D&D movie but think Ritchie's Arthur movie is "hilariously anachronistic." I also think your reading of Ritchie's movie is pretty off (I don't think it's trying to be "edgy" at all, for starters). But all art is a YMMV thing, yes? Again, to be clear: I don't begrudge anyone finding fun or excitement in the new movie (and despite my pessimism about it, I'm open to being pleasantly surprised).